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Old 10-23-2017, 11:44 AM
Aquila Aquila is offline
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Re: The Reason Why Kaepernick Kneeled

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Wrong. They do NOT have a right to protest while they are working.
They shouldn't have to surrender being an American to join the NFL. If the laws are such that they do...perhaps those laws should be changed. I mean, shouldn't a baker have the right to deny services in protest of their disapproval of a customer's lifestyle?

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Here we go with the new liberal garbage narrative: football players being viewed as "slaves." News flash, cupcake, employers don't have to honor employees 1A rights on the job.
Wrong. The point was that on our corporate plantation, black or white, employees have been reduced to being "owned" if they want to keep their jobs. Many companies already dictate what you can or cannot do even when you're off the clock in your private life and on your private property.

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Sure. Just as you didn't mean to insult us with your plea to protest Pentecostal services or with your post claiming you would understand a person who would shoot up a church.
Stay on topic and stop distorting actual reasoning and intentions. The point was if pulpits want to go political and turn churches into political action committees, those who oppose should protest. And notice, I said such should be said regardless as to if the church was liberal or conservative. But distorting the actual point and intentions of my previous statements, you only proves how weak your argument is.

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Fact: It is not a fundamental right while on the job. But hey, why don't you try it, Aquila. While on the job, why not write some cardboard signs and march around protesting white supremacy and the false narrative that blacks are more likely to die from police brutality. Then when your supervisor calls you in and tells you to stop, I want you to tell him to get lost. Tell him it's your fundamental right and then walk out and continue protesting. See how long you remain employed.
Actually, I'm union. Should the union call us to picket during work hours, I'll do it. You see, being a part of a union, I don't surrender my civil rights at the door of my employer. You do.

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FALSE. If the protest is based on a lie and false narrative, it should be exposed for what it is - a LIE.
Oh, I'm not against exposing a lie if it can be proven to be a lie. That's the opposition's free speech. What I'm saying is that lie or not, one has the right to protest any perceived injustice.

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FALSE and insulting. Tell me, Aquila, why aren't these "gutsy" athletes protesting black on black violence in Chicago and other urban metros? Black on black violence will cause more black deaths in Chicago in a month, than cops will in a year or more.
That's much like my question when I asked why Christian athletes aren't protesting for Christian causes. I think it isn't so much about the "cause", it's about supporting Kaepernick and his right to protest in relation to the national anthem. I mean, he's still showing up for the game. He's still playing the game. He's only taking a knee during a song. A song that represents the very freedom to take a knee if one so desires. Does his contract require him to stand for the anthem? I don't think so. I think it's about players supporting a fellow player more than it is the issue itself. Or, as you and I both illustrated, they'd be protesting other issues as well.

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