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[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
Welcome to the “straw man” argument museum. A “straw man” argument attempts to counter an argument with a different argument.

The question asked by you was whether or not marriage to a prepubescent girl is a sin. I affirmed it was based upon Biblical data.

Posted By WII
No I received your answer, which took DAYS for you to finally give.

"As shown, the Bible does not give explicit age for someone to get married, but what it does give, reading the passage, ‘puberty’ is the minimum age for a girl allowed to get married."

ROTFL!!! Really!!! Wait… RORFL… Wait… ROTFL!!!

You still don’t know how to document your assertions! LOL! Oh wait! That’s because there is NO documentation! LOL!!! Like I said before, your posts have as much substance as a vacuum! LOL!

The closest thing that I “said” compared to your “assertion” is found on January 5 at 8:35. Here is what was said in CONTEXT. Grab a dictionary and look up what “context” means. LOL!

Note the point about this coming from an Islamic apologetic website. This IS part of the “context”

Once more from your site! LOL!
Kaleef K. Karim
“In this article I will establish that the age for marriage, when someone is allowed to get married Biblically, is when one enters puberty. The Bible makes mention the general age of girl allowed for marriage. The reference is found in a parable where God compares Israel to a baby girl whom YHWH took in and then married her off, later.
Ezekiel 16:4 NIV Translation
4 On the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to make you clean, nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths.
5 No one looked on you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for you. Rather, you were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were born you were despised.
6 “‘Then I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood, and as you lay there in your blood I said to you, “Live!”[a]
7 I made you grow like a plant of the field. You grew and developed and entered puberty. Your breasts had formed and your hair had grown, yet you were stark naked.
8 “‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your naked body… –

As you read the passage, the girl attained the age for lovemaking after her breast had grown and pubic hairs, these are clear signs of puberty.

As shown, the Bible does not give explicit age for someone to get married, but what it does give, reading the passage, ‘puberty’ is the minimum age for a girl allowed to get married.
…In conclusion, the Bible provides no explicit age for when a girl is allowed to get married. But, what it does give us is that YHWH – God of the Bible, allows for marriage to be consummated when a female has hit puberty. Ezekiel 16 proves, once a girl has hit puberty, she can get married.”
http://discoverthetruth.com/2014/0...inthebible/
End of quote…

ROTFL!!! I was quoting an Islamic apologetic website (a site that appears to be where you got your information LOL!) and how that very website disagreed with your premise (that Rebekah was 3 or that the Bible affirms prepubescent marriage)! ROTFL!!! In short I demonstrated with an Islamic source the absurdity of your “argument”. ROTFL!!! Thank you for the cheap entertainment! LOL!

At least work on your reading comprehension skills. That way you will not look so foolish…
Thanks for proving once again the title of this thread.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
Data such as Jesus Himself, correcting the error of Jewish tradition, referencing the creative order of one man and one woman in marriage. The fact that God created the universe in maturity is indicative of Adam and Eve being created in maturity as well. For example, the vegetation had to be created in maturity or the animals created the next day have died due to a lack of food. Adam was to tend to the garden, indicating mature thought processes.

Posted By WII
In other words: "As shown, the Bible does not give explicit age for someone to get married, but what it does give, reading the passage, ‘puberty’ is the minimum age for a girl allowed to get married." Right?

Great job! Demonstrating your lack of reading comprehension skills! ROTFL!!!

If this is the level of scholarship muslims have no wonder they accept the teachings of a man who married a six year old girl and consummated that marriage when she was nine.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
As to the marriage of Isaac and Rebekah they were indeed married. However, she was not a prepubescent girl. She was a mature young woman. The ESV gets the translation right.

Posted By WII
In other words: "As shown, the Bible does not give explicit age for someone to get married, but what it does give, reading the passage, ‘puberty’ is the minimum age for a girl allowed to get married". Thank you.

ROTFL!!! That’s right, thank your Islamic apologist’s site since it was their quote. LOL!!!
Great job demonstrating your lack of reading comprehension skills AGAIN!!! ROTFL!!!

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
Your argument that he was forty and she was a teen is based upon your wishful imagination because the Biblical text does not give her age. You must prove she was a “teen”. Although, this is interesting. You first attempted to argue she was a three year old girl, I discuss that fallacy below. Now you are trying to argue she was a “teen”. I applaud your reversal, if it’s sincere. I doubt the sincerity though.

Posted By WII
In other words: "As shown, the Bible does not give explicit age for someone to get married, but what it does give, reading the passage, ‘puberty’ is the minimum age for a girl allowed to get married." Thank you.

No. In other words you have once again demonstrated your inability to comprehend what you are reading. I hope this is NOT indicative of Texas schools. Did you graduate? What school district? I hope you’re an anomaly…

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
your prophet married and consummated that marriage with a prepubescent girl.

Posted By WII
Source?

Sources are not required when the information posited is well known. Are you going to deny this? Will you now attempt to argue your prophet was not a pedophile and that it is not part of your religion?

So tell us, if you can comprehend what’s being written, do you agree with the historical fact that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and consummated that marriage when she was nine?

A simple yes or no will do.

Oh and BTW I have already “sourced” this information. Keep up.

Also, You stated on 01 06 2015 at 09:57 PM:
“He [Muhammad] arranged a marriage, waited 3 years, consummated it. Seems that practice predates Islam. Either he is the most patient pedophile in history or he simply, not realizing that in the 21st century these actions would be judged under a different set of criteria, was following the practices of that time.”

Your “argument” here was that since he waited until Aisha was nine years old he is not a pedophile. What absurd logic.

So you have already “sourced” it yourself! LOL!!!

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
Next you have tried to make arguments about Mary and Joseph. Again you must prove the ages. How old were they? The Biblical data would indicate they were both mature individuals. Beyond that no age is given. You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. Facts are stubborn things…

Posted By WII
In other words: "As shown, the Bible does not give explicit age for someone to get married, but what it does give, reading the passage, ‘puberty’ is the minimum age for a girl allowed to get married." Thanks.

ROTFL!!! Once again you prove your lack of reading comprehension skills!!! LOL!!!
Like what I DID SAY, “You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. Facts are stubborn things…” LOL!!!

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Originally Posted by Pliny
It appears to me that you are grasping at straws to find anything to justify your prophet.

Posted By WII
It appears that we are right back to what I originally told you. There is no explicit age given for marriage in the bible. You could have just agreed with that way back.

LOL!!! Right back to you demonstrating your inability to comprehend what you read! ROTFL!!