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Old 10-21-2013, 08:06 PM
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Re: Timmy Talk

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Marc, as an atheist/unbeliever, you apparently believe it highly likely that a person who makes a public interruption in order to deliver a religious rebuke to the 'powers that be' is a mental case, a 'possible psycho'.
No, I'm not qualified to say if it's "highly likely" or not, and that is similarly why Congress called on a so-called mental health professional, not me, and not you. Any such strange interruption in Congress, religious or not, should be evaluated for the possibility--as she was, according to the story. Publicly-entrusted Congressional stenographers are NOT paid to offer a personal outburst or lecture, rather, they are paid to type and get the words down correctly.
BTW, In like manner, public school teachers are not paid to "witness for Christ" on the taxpayer's time, or on taxpayer's property.

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This is the mentality that will not only allow, but support the persecution of Christians for 'mental illness', just as was done throughout the middle ages (they called it witchcraft or demon possession or having a familiar spirit back then) and in many
That's my mentality, eh? My "mentality" is that the Constitution of the USA upholds the principal of secular government. God is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution of USA for a good reason--the founding fathers didn't want it put there, even though some or many of them believed in a god! (PS, no need to quote the Declaration of Independence--it does not possess the force of law, but the Constitution does.)

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just as was done throughout the middle ages
In the Middle Ages (and even later) it was religious people calling other religious people witches or demon possessed. A typical atheist doesn't believe witches or demons even exist. Nice conflating there, however.

Now please answer the question. Did you say, "Good for her!" in a normal, complimentary sense?

Should the next stenographer deserve a back-pat if he or she were to interrupt Congress in order to proclaim, "Santa Claus is not pleased with the behavior of Congress this year, and He never has been. You've all been bad, very, very bad, and he told me to tell you that."

Or change it to an Islamic message. Would it be "Good for her!" in that case? Doesn't everyone get the same religious freedom of expression you want for christians?

How 'bout a Wiccan lecture to Congress--wiccans are relatively benign with their chakras, auras, and earth goddesses--they don't hurt anyone. Can a stenographer stand up and interrupt to proclaim that message? Oh? "Good for her!"

The beauty of American secularism is that it ideally can protect you as well as me, as well and the Rastapharian. But the Majority Religion DOESN'T get to rule this arena. If you try to, then expect the push-back.

IOW, religious speech should not be publicly funded. Do it on your own time, with your own dime, and on your own ground. Or else let every other religious crack-pot do the same unto you.

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