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Old 06-25-2013, 11:33 AM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming

Testimony from a lady who was the Sanford PD citizen patrol/watch person. She and Defense stated several times that it was the HOA who contacted GZ to lead the NW program. I think this witness blew up on the Pros, though they had to know from pre-trial interview what her testimony would be. She was very favorable to GZ. The Pros questions tried to highlight the high number of emails and contact GZ had with her, but honestly, her testimony was helpful to me as to verifying that GZ was not some vigilante out to blast some kid.

Important note: she stated that the training instructed the NW Coordinator to follow - at a safe distance. Pros objected to any personal opinion of hers relating to whether or not she believed GZ was justified in following, but the Jury could tell from her testimony that she thought well of GZ.

The next witness was definitely not a GZ fan. It was the president of the HOA, who at the time of TM's death was recently put in that position. Just as you could tell the previous witness was favorable to GZ; you could sense this witness was the opposite. IMO, he didn't like GZ at all. I imagine the two have had issues previously.

He contradicted what the Defense has been saying all along and what the previous witness stated; that it was GZ, and not the HOA, who wanted to start the NW program. He said he didn't think it was needed; said the police patrolled the apt and were in control. And he told the Pros they were told NOT to follow at all...though he admitted later to the Defense that they could follow at a safe distance.

In fact, the Defense somewhat scored with this witness also. The wit described an encounter he and "some stucco guys" had with a guy who lived on the property, who was later arrested for burglary. He said the stucco guys saw the kid run out of a home, jump into a truck and speed away. The home was reported to have been burglarized. Later, the wit said, the stucco guys were across at Kohls (wit said Kohls, not sure if its the same as the department store or some other Coles? Kohls?) eating lunch and saw the guy walking by. They followed him, called 911 and led the officer to the home where the guy was arrested. While questioned by the Pros, the wit said he sent an email praising the stucco guys for helping nab the burglar. Under cross by O'mara, the wit was asked to tell the court the description of the burglar -- side note: wit had spoken with the guy previously before knowing he was the burglar. At first, he was visibly uncomfortable...."I don't remember." "Just a guy." When pressed, he stated it was a 17 or 18 year old black male. O'mara asked about the stucco guys following the suspected burglar...no different than what GZ did that night. Wit admitted, contrary to his previous statements when questioned by the Pros, that it was okay to follow at a safe distance....but they're not the police, they're supposed to let the police handle it.

Pros stood up to ask the wit to confirm he was told not to follow...wit said correct. O'mara then stood up to clarify because the wit said previously "at a safe distance," and the wit agreed it was said in the NW meeting that they could. Pros stood up again and stated, but you were told not to follow, correct? Wit again stated they weren't to follow.

Those multiple exchanges were confusing. On one hand, the wit told Pros that he was in the meeting with the Sanford PD NW lady and was told NOT to follow; then he turned around and said yes they could follow -- at a safe distance. Then flipped back to no, then yes, then no again.

KWSS1976 -- were you watching this? It had to be confusing for the Jury and when he stepped down, the issue wasn't settled, IMO. Either they were told they could or they were told they couldn't...it couldn't be both.

The Jury will have to process his testimony against the Sanford PD's liaison, and IMO his testimony seemed tainted by some kind of a beef or grudge. He didn't seem to like GZ on a personal level.

Thus far, the 911 op and the Sanford PD liaison have caused me to rethink my opinion of GZ. Both were favorable to GZ, even though Pros witnesses, both said following at a safe distance was ok - and the liaison had it in her training info. My issue has been with him following -- and ironically it seems the defense now is letting it slide that GZ may indeed have followed TM, but did so at a safe distance, in accordance with the training he was given by Sanford PD.
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