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Old 02-17-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

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No, my friend, I heard you. Problem is, you didn't hear me, and still don't. I've got health problems that give me every excuse in the World to EAT myself to death. But that's not the point.

The point is, most obese people in Church EAT TOO MUCH, and it has nothing to do with a health problem. It's a discipline problem. It's just like smoking; it's a discipline problem when you don't say, ENOUGH, NO MORE. Did you watch the Video? Obesity is the #1 Health Epidemic in this Country, and Apostolics are included.

So, about those who DO overeat? Does your Church endorse and teach moderation when eating? Do they set the "Standard" regarding this Health Epidemic? Or, do they cover their fat arms with long sleeves, lost in the World of inner Religious tolerance? Our pounding Pulpits talk about Holiness, condemning those who wear shorts or makeup, while we’re dying inside from a poor diet. You talk about imbalance!! This is pure hypocrisy!

Like I said, I’ve have learned how wrong I’ve been. God loves people, whether they wear shorts, cut their hair, smoke cigarettes, and believe in the Trinity. They can be fat, skinny, poor, weak, and be of a totally different Faith than me; God loves them. God loves us when we are confused and when we don’t dress modestly, and His love can reach far beyond the boundaries of my little Faith that I think is the right one.

Just like coffee plays a vital role in our lives (a considered addiction), even the use of Tobacco has its place. Tobacco can calm the nerves of a man, and many in combat used tobacco to help them when dealing with the dramatics of War. These men fought to the death to give us Liberty, coming home with a nicotine habit. Then we preach to them that they are lost if they smoke, not considering we were in our Lazyboy while they were picking up their buddies brains on some island in the Pacific.

If we don’t “Stand Back”, we will carry on with “Fools Gold” in our Faith. I believe perspective and experience is everything when seeking the Truth. The Cross was way too radical, and Jesus didn't die for my little idea of what I think is right.

NFS, you're one of my favorites and I mostly steer clear of OPII because he's praying for me to be thrown off the forum. But there isn't anyone more fanatical about staying thin and controlling my eating more than me. I consider it to be part of my worship to God and I'm continually irritated at huge preachers who scream about the evils of smoking.

That being said, OPII...man I hate to admit this...makes a valid point. While thyroid disorders are ridiculously uncommon, there are other things that cause morbid obesity. I have a son in a wheelchair as the result of brain cancer and he has an issue with fluids that build up in his body that ultimately are a result of his brain releasing too much fluid into his spine. The result is, there are times when his weight gets high and there was a time previously...and a surgery was done to correct this...that he was morbidly obese. Not everyone simply eats too much.

That being said, I do understand that by a great majority, those who are large are that way because of overeating, but it seems fair to at least make sure it's that reason before we get too direct with those that are.
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