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Originally Posted by votivesoul
I don't see the word "salvation" in John 3:5. Do you? I also don't see the phrase "the sign of tongues" there, either. Do you?
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John 3.5 is not about salvation? Based on Jesus's entire conversation with Nicodemus, to be born from above and thus be able to see and enter the kingdom is equivalent to believing in Jesus and thus not perishing but having eternal life. That is the very definition of salvation.
It would be helpful if you just stated clearly what you think the the birth of the Spirit it is. Do you not think it only occurs with the sign of tongues?
I don't see the word "baptism" here either, but I would imagine you and others would say that "water" is obviously baptism.