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Originally Posted by ILG
It is easy to fake "salvation" as the UPC defines it.
Repentance is easy to fake. Just go to the altar and look sorrowful.
Baptism. Just do it.
Tongues? I have heard lots of fake tongues in my life. Just sound like everybody else.
What many consider proof of God in your life, standards, are easy to fake, just follow the list.
Who has motive to fake salvation? All those who are being or have been pressured by wives, mothers, husbands, fathers, kids and friends to "get saved".
In a culture that greatly pressures people to get "saved" or go to hell and constantly measures who is "in" and who is "out", there is great pressure on people to "get saved" to get people off their back. They might not even know they are faking because they don't even know what the real experience is. Since this formula is so traditional and passed down from generation to generation to "be saved" there are likely a great many in the UPC and other apostolic churches that don't have a clue what true salvation is, they are just following the formula. The same thing is true in all churches but many other churches don't constantly measure who is "in" and who is "out".
The UPC taught me they were different. But they are not. Some in the UPC have faith and some do not. There is no formula for salvation to prove to another you are saved, no way to say "You are in and you are out".
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Yeah..it's about the UPC. the blurb about "other churches" is a minor, side note.
You know, I repeat this, The problem was never about talking about the UPC. The Problem is it is incessant picking, nit picking, criticism on and on and on. Topic after Topic. Post after Post. It's built up over the years.
It's gotten pretty old
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