The Mosque Should Be Built!

[james34]

Vote no mosque!!!!!!!!

[NotforSale]

To my AFF buddies, just got in from a 20 mile Hammer, and hot, homemade pizza is on the table. I'll be bowing out for the evening!! Hold the Fort!

BTW, my good wife reminded me, people were litterally standing in the gaping hole where the plane had made impact into the Tower. Pretty hot flames, I'd say.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Why bother. I've come to realize that you and I are on different planets. I don't think I can help you.

If you give a hoot in hades about the ten commandments in the courtroom, sayings on currency, prayer in the schools, "Under God" in the pledge, where mosques are built, if you are opposed to all mosques in general, if you think this is a Christian nation built on the principles of the bible, and are bothered by the societal tendency to undermine Christianity, then you're focused on the wrong stuff.

I'm gonna stick with Jesus' plan of redemption and radically spread His grace that has ravaged my soul, and let the dollar bills take care of themselves.

Have it your way. Go join the Christian Coalition and make sure no one listens to AC/DC. Have fun fighting a completely worthless war.

I post a rebuttal of your comments and all you say is "why bother?" Its like when I posted an argument full of scripture on the secular music thread and you respnded with "I'm not even going to read it" and went off on an emotional tirade.

The majority of your arguments are based on experiences and emotions.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You continue to snowball the facts.

Yup. The facts just keep "snowballing" and rolling right over your conspiracy theories. Facts will do that. You on the other hand don't even understand the use of a simile.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Comparing the Marine Barracks to the World Trade Towers, and Building 7, is just plain dumb. Here's a link stating the materials and construction of the building. The explosion was so large, it lifted the entire building off of the ground. Again, you avoid the facts by downplaying honest research.

It's not "honest" research. And, I brought up the marine barracks (I am explaining this AGAIN for about the third time) because it was a relatively well known event and involved a building which collapsed into its own footprint ("pancaked").

Originally Posted by NotforSale

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Be...rracks_bombing

Did you look at the pictures on that site? IT'S THE SAME ARTICLE I LINKED TO. Only I actually included a link that works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Be...rracks_bombing

Look at the pictures.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You go from, "The Americans were all over the radio trying to call the Israeli jet off and were heard far and wide by other US naval vessels who were steaming to their aid", to, "It was a subsequent cover-up".

A reasonable person (especially anyone with military experience) can see the progression of those events. A desperate conspiracy buff will fail to think it through.

"The Americans" were all over the (military) radio calling for help and attempting to call off the Israeli fighters during the incident. After the incident there was official stonewalling and the withholding of information that characterizes a "cover up."

That is my assertion. Though this assertion is complex (it has two parts) and involves a timeline ("during" and "after"), most third graders would have no difficulty understanding whether they happened to agree with me or not.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You also stated, "No engineers and qualified scientists" have "proved" any of the conspiracy notions about 9/11". I gave you a list, and you say nothing. Here it is again.

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

Lemme see, do I really have the time to Fisk all of these meat heads? No. Let's just look at a few of the names:

Walter R. Peterson (the octogenarian and now mentally incapacitated former governor of New Hampshire).

Professional wrestler Jesse Ventura (this website cites as one of Ventura's "accomplishments" to support his "findings" the fact that he appeared in the film "The Running Man" alongside Richard Dawson).

Former Rep. Cynthia McKinney
Ambassador Joe Wilson (the guy whose lies made his wife Valerie Plame infamous).
Ron Paul
Senator Patrick "Leaky" Leahy (guilty in the deaths of several American agents and allies overseas).
Dennis ("governement mind control satellites") Kuchinich

Walter Mondale has been added because of the following "interview":

Interviewed by Minnesota We Are C.H.A.N.G.E 2/3/08:

Question: Would you support a new investigation into 9/11?

Vice President Mondale: Yeah, because, "Why did it happen?" We need that phase two. They never did it.

Question: All right!

These bozos feel like that's an endorsement from Jimmy Carter's veep. I am certain Mr. Mondale feels otherwise.

This whole list is just a bunch of similarly nonsensical clips that the "truthers" have attempted to skew into endorsements. It's like Jeffrey Dahmer claiming an endorsement from Sears and Kenmore just because he kept human remains in the freezer.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I gave you scientific facts regarding the "Free Fall" of the buildings, I didn't "Assert", and you ignore this very significant research that points to many problems regarding this event.

http://911blimp.net/prf_FreeFallPhysics.shtml

I didn't call you any names.

You linked to a discussion of the effects of gravity upon an apple and attempted to compare the apple falling from a tree to the collapse of the towers.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

What about the Core of the Twin Towers?

Those are the supports that were severed and weakened by the fire.

Originally Posted by NotforSale

BTW, I'm still a clear thinker. I just won't be pushed around by "Know it all's" like you. (Sorry, I just called you name). You seem to know everything about everything, and that might intimidate others, but not me.

If you don't play strait, I'm going to call you to the carpet, in a peaceable way. You still leave way too much on the table with this subject, and I'll continue to keep an open mind, but give me facts, not your opinion's that fall off the map with your own "Cover up".

Put down your crack pipe NotForSanity and pay attention. You can play the loony card all you want, but at the end of the day you are still a loon.

Your argument here is way off topic for this thread. Your "facts" are invented. Your observations about the "sinking" of the Liberty and the "cinder block" marine barracks were way off base.

You have completely ducked the Gulf of Tonkin fiction that you had pitched earlier when you found out that North Vietnam itself had reported taking part in the combat. You've been wrong about everything including your complaint that I don't "play strait" (SIC).

It's straight. And if you want to start a thread dealing with your hallucinations I will come straight at you.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by james34

they have no right to build.And true christians have no business supporting its construction.

But if i say i support the mosque , what does that mean .Does it mean that i donate money, or some tangible substance to help with its construction.

Or does it mean that having the mind of Christ,and having my heart right before God and being led of the Spirit that i think it is ok and of little signifigance .

Love not the world ,neither the things that are in the world ,if any man love the world the love of the Father is not in him.

It is impossible to support false religion and love God.If mans laws are contrary to Gods word ,then we are to heed Gods word.

When no fault could be found in Daniel,his enemies sought to have a law passed that made his worship of the true God ,illegal.

But Daniel did that which was contrary to the law and continued to please God in prayer.

Now see, this is where it just gets idiotic. Of course they have a right. Good heavens. You haven't been around much, have you?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

I post a rebuttal of your comments and all you say is "why bother?" Its like when I posted an argument full of scripture on the secular music thread and you respnded with "I'm not even going to read it" and went off on an emotional tirade.

The majority of your arguments are based on experiences and emotions.

I didn't read it because you copied and pasted about 188 scriptures that I already know, believe, and support. I say, "Why bother" because there is a LONG reply in your inbox that you've never responded to. So yeah......

Why bother. You're not listening to a thing I say anyway.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by james34

Vote no mosque!!!!!!!!

It's not a vote, Einstein.

[james34]

you sho is talkin alot ,but you aint said nuthin yet!

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by james34

you sho is talkin alot ,but you aint said nuthin yet!

...as opposed to your brilliant post here. I need to just sit at your feet and learn from you.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by james34

you sho is talkin alot ,but you aint said nuthin yet!

Hot air.