I would guess many of the more conservative that may have left, did so because of the strong liberal shift of so many posters. I am new, but it doesn't take long to notice.
I am far from the ultra-con crowd. Trustme, I have been rebuked and told I need to fear for my soul by more than one good Apostolic man because of my "liberal" thoughts on a few subjects. And here....I feel as though I am an ultra-con in comparison to many of the posters who appear to be of the anythign goes variety. Heck, I come across a good many who don't even seem convinced of ONeness.
So why would they stay when they feel they are outnumbered and attacked. How many times do you have to hear "where does the Bible say a woman can't wear pants" before you get sick of the endless argument and find less confrontational company?
Yea!! Who are these stupid Christians that think they need Scripture for everything, and not just Scripture but Scripture correctly interpreted and applied. Those people would run anybody off.
And on another note, never trust any one who says, "Trust me."
You can trust me on that.
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If you don't think a woman should wear pants, you have that right. You shouldn't have to be afraid to express an opinion because you know when you do so it will be "dog pile on the conservative". Hence, I understand why they would leave.
Sure, the pants issue is a tradition. Paul said they would hold to some traditions. Not all traditions are bad. But to the Liberal, when it is a tradition it gets treated like it is the plague and must be obliterated.
I didn't say i agreed or disagred with those who left, nor do I know their reasons. I simply said that I can see why some would when they aren't even allowed to express their opinion without knowing a group of liberals will descend upon them and attack.
If you don't think a woman should wear pants, you have that right. You shouldn't have to be afraid to express an opinion because you know when you do so it will be "dog pile on the conservative". Hence, I understand why they would leave.
Sure, the pants issue is a tradition. Paul said they would hold to some traditions. Not all traditions are bad. But to the Liberal, when it is a tradition it gets treated like it is the plague and must be obliterated.
I didn't say i agreed or disagred with those who left, nor do I know their reasons. I simply said that I can see why some would when they aren't even allowed to express their opinion without knowing a group of liberals will descend upon them and attack.
Your points are valid! Just as you shouldn't judge an organization by it's extreems, you shouldn't judge this forum by the extreems. There are folks who post here from BOTH the left and right that embarrass me as an Apostolic christian.
I have learned to roll my eyes and pretty much ignore some posters. There are some that left that I miss, but many that I don't!
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If you don't think a woman should wear pants, you have that right. You shouldn't have to be afraid to express an opinion because you know when you do so it will be "dog pile on the conservative". Hence, I understand why they would leave.
Sure, the pants issue is a tradition. Paul said they would hold to some traditions. Not all traditions are bad. But to the Liberal, when it is a tradition it gets treated like it is the plague and must be obliterated.
I didn't say i agreed or disagred with those who left, nor do I know their reasons. I simply said that I can see why some would when they aren't even allowed to express their opinion without knowing a group of liberals will descend upon them and attack.
Funny that men never bring up the tradition of wearing high heels, stockings,nightgowns, skirts and tunics to drive home a point, huh?
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Not sure I ever hear a preacher say you have to wear heels, stockings, nightgowns or tunics. I know some women who refuse to wear anything but a nightgown to bed because they feel it is hypocritical to wear a skirt/dress all day and then throw on pants at night though.
I don't know you and I am really only just learning tidbits about people in general, but you seem to have a real "bitter formerly traditional Apostolic woman turned raging feminist" vibe. I hope I am wrong, but the way you seem to always pop in on any mention of expecting women to be ladylike, not usurp power over men or call Apo men chauvenists kinda just supports my point.
be passionate about eternity dear ones...not on styles that soon pass and doctrines that hold no water...live what you believe...be merciful to those that differ with you...be kind in this seemly unkind world...The world will know if you are a real christian...
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Not sure I ever hear a preacher say you have to wear heels, stockings, nightgowns or tunics. I know some women who refuse to wear anything but a nightgown to bed because they feel it is hypocritical to wear a skirt/dress all day and then throw on pants at night though.
Only because they are men and there is no way they want to go back to that kind of lifestyle. Besides, those items haven't been worn by western society in at least 100 years, some longer than that, and the 'old paths' don't go back that far.
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I don't know you and I am really only just learning tidbits about people in general, but you seem to have a real "bitter formerly traditional Apostolic woman turned raging feminist" vibe. I hope I am wrong, but the way you seem to always pop in on any mention of expecting women to be ladylike, not usurp power over men or call Apo men chauvenists kinda just supports my point.
Well, how would you like it if women were constantly harping on what men should or shouldn't do? Do you think we have that right?
This isn't something that happens once in a while, it's constant, and we are sick of hearing it from MEN who have not a clue what they are talking about. And get real...men are talking about women merely looking ladylike. It's about mentioning specifics and trying to tie them into scriptural doctrine where none exists.
And yes, you are wrong in your assumption of me.
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be passionate about eternity dear ones...not on styles that soon pass and doctrines that hold no water...live what you believe...be merciful to those that differ with you...be kind in this seemly unkind world...The world will know if you are a real christian...
You mean like how men let go of their tunics, high heels, stockings, and nightgowns worn 75+ years ago, but expect women to continue to dress according to the traditional dress of 75+ years ago? LOL!
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be passionate about eternity dear ones...not on styles that soon pass and doctrines that hold no water...live what you believe...be merciful to those that differ with you...be kind in this seemly unkind world...The world will know if you are a real christian...
Once again very wise words Sister Alvear! Thankyou!
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