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Old 11-22-2008, 11:15 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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The IAMs are not putting up a Christmas tree either...........

This year we got TWO of em.....OH YEAH!!!!!!!!

Plus the Kids get one in each of their rooms......the house will be totally outlined in lights.....trees in the yard........

It is the MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR..........

Oh yeah......to all you Christmas haters that use the letter X...........ROFL...........you might want to research that out.........in reality the X is a symbol for CHRIST.......you guys are a hoot........


MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whaaaaaat!!!!!!!!

I am going to tell the Ultra Cons on you!!!!

You wait til I tell Riggen and the CAF gang about this one!!!!!








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Old 11-22-2008, 11:26 PM
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Or lights or turkey or family get togethers..... Yet many are unwilling to give up the eating part.
exactly
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:31 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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Oh yeah......to all you Christmas haters that use the letter X...........ROFL...........you might want to research that out.........in reality the X is a symbol for CHRIST.......you guys are a hoot........


MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doesn't anyone read these threads? Hey, it's only 74 pages

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...6&postcount=16

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=169


http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=598

Elder, the X is not a symbol for Christ, it's the Greek letter that begins the word Χριστός.

In Jesus name

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Old 11-23-2008, 12:41 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

Let’s just talk straight.

Many profess their value in the area of doctrine or principal is from the word of God. So they profess…

But you then chose to believe the words that are captured outside the word of God to denote your distain for celebrating the birth of the visible expression of the invisible God.

Because we are not commanded to celebrate the birth of Christ in scripture?

Yet, you chose to believe in writings that have no inspiration of God. They are not written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to reprove or rebuke us.

You make it clear you will not go outside the word of God to garnish a point that might break away at areas such as standards.

Many of the standards under the heading of holiness, which have no such commandment in scripture.

The bury Christmas crowd assure us that the celebration of Christmas is pagan.

Yet they garnish to appraise these writings as gospel from some hidden dark age.

Therefore or because of this.... do not celebrate the birth of Christ.

What would King David have done with the birth of Christ?

He danced in ritual like unto the pagan’s into the city as the Ark was brought back to Israel.

His wife even called him mad……

Christmas is more than just a day that we gather around with our families to enjoy fellowship, a meal, and some gifts.

Christmas is the powerful reality of the miracle of the Incarnation. It is the moment when Eternity stepped down into time (Micah 5:2), when God emptied Himself and became both God and Man even to death on the cross (Philippians 2:5-11).

It is the wonder of the perfect Son of God becoming flesh to bear our sins (2 Corinthians 5:20-21; Galatians 1:4; 2:20; Hebrews 10:14; 1 Peter 2:24-25).


The wonder of Christmas is the reality that God's final Word (Hebrews 1:1-2) became flesh and blood (John 1:14) full of grace and truth (John 1:17).


Immanuel: God with us.

My prayer is that the Church will stand in awe and wonder at the Incarnation and worship Jesus Christ for all that He is, has done, and all that He will do.

Jesus... the child, the healer, the one that overcame the battle with Satan. The one who overcame the Grave, the one ascended back to the Throne…

He will return in power soon (Acts 1:11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) and I long to see Him (1 John 3:1-3). May the world come to see that only Jesus can bring true peace (Isaiah 9:6-7).

You can stand before Christ and explain that when you had a chance to show the world you reveranced the birth of your saviour, king and God.

You chose to quote ancient scripts and get pushed aside because you are afraid of non-living pagan idols.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:28 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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Who started the thread? Why do some Christians waste so much time trying to tell other Christians they are wrong?

I respect that several don't believe in putting up trees, but don't understand why they keep wanting to try and convince us that don't have a problem with it that we are wrong.
There is that. Never said I agree with the premise behind the thread either...

And I'm very, very aware that a lot of the defensiveness may come directly from things like the original post.
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:03 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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Brother Phelps you don't have any scripture for the entire practice for xmas.
The celebration is made up of rituals from pagans dating past the first century AD. Baptized by the Eastern and Western Churches and adopted by certian Christians there after.

Brother Phelps I'm not offended, I don't do the Popish festival.

I am glad that you are not offended.

In Jesus name

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Well, by this reasoning, Brother, there are a lot of things that we don't have scripture FOR, such as two services on Sunday, driving a car, surfing the internet, etc.

But, we don't have scripture AGAINST, either.

But, we're just not consistent.

Let me give you an example - the UPC people and many UC's use the scripture "I will set no evil thing before my eyes" to support their stance against television, when the entire time they are spending hours a day on the internet!!!!!

THat's my point - if you have a conviction against something, just say "I'm convicted of doing this thing" and leave it at that, don't try to wrap misinterpreted scripture around your reasoing to imply that God is somehow enforcing this conviction on everyone!

And, I'm glad you're not offended either, I enjoy our conversations!
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:18 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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Let’s just talk straight... Many profess their value in the area of doctrine or principal is from the word of God... So they profess…But you then chose to believe the words that are captured outside the word of God to denote your distain for celebrating the birth of the visible expression of the invisible God.Because we are not commanded to celebrate the birth of Christ in scripture?Yet, you chose to believe in writings that have no inspiration of God... They are not written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to reprove or rebuke us... You make it clear you will not go outside the word of God to garnish a point that might break away at areas such as standards.Many of the standards under the heading of holiness, which have no such commandment in scripture... The bury Christmas crowd assure us that the celebration of Christmas is pagan.Yet they garnish to appraise these writings as gospel from some hidden dark age.Therefore or because of this.... do not celebrate the birth of Christ.What would King David have done with the birth of Christ?He danced in ritual like unto the pagan’s into the city as the Ark was brought back to Israel.His wife even called him mad……Christmas is more than just a day that we gather around with our families to enjoy fellowship, a meal, and some gifts. Christmas is the powerful reality of the miracle of the Incarnation. It is the moment when Eternity stepped down into time (Micah 5:2), when God emptied Himself and became both God and Man even to death on the cross (Philippians 2:5-11). It is the wonder of the perfect Son of God becoming flesh to bear our sins (2 Corinthians 5:20-21; Galatians 1:4; 2:20; Hebrews 10:14; 1 Peter 2:24-25). The wonder of Christmas is the reality that God's final Word (Hebrews 1:1-2) became flesh and blood (John 1:14) full of grace and truth (John 1:17). Immanuel: God with us.My prayer is that the Church will stand in awe and wonder at the Incarnation and worship Jesus Christ for all that He is, has done, and all that He will do. Jesus... the child, the healer, the one that overcame the battle with Satan... The one who overcame the Grave, the one ascended back to the Throne….. He will return in power soon (Acts 1:11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) and I long to see Him (1 John 3:1-3). May the world come to see that only Jesus can bring true peace (Isaiah 9:6-7). You can stand before Christ and explain that when you had a chance to show the world you reveranced the birth of your saviour, king and God.You chose to quote ancient scripts and get pushed aside because you are afraid of non-living pagan idols.
My friend you have the birth of Christ confused with Xmas. I am thankful He was born and preach about His birth often. There would be NO Calvary without the Incarnation. This has ZERO to do with XMAS. Decorating trees has what to do with His birth? Like colored eggs with the resurrection. His birth is NOT less important to us who do not put up Xmas trees maybe it is even more important.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:03 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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My friend you have the birth of Christ confused with Xmas. I am thankful He was born and preach about His birth often. There would be NO Calvary without the Incarnation. This has ZERO to do with XMAS. Decorating trees has what to do with His birth? Like colored eggs with the resurrection. His birth is NOT less important to us who do not put up Xmas trees maybe it is even more important.
Again... well said.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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Who started the thread? Why do some Christians waste so much time trying to tell other Christians they are wrong?

I respect that several don't believe in putting up trees, but don't understand why they keep wanting to try and convince us that don't have a problem with it that we are wrong.
I do have a problem with the spirit in which some posts are made on both sides of the fence and I want to recognize that up front. There are a few, on both sides of the issue, that don't handle the expression of their thought well and they are forward and abrasive in the way they make their points. But that is generally a trait that remains consistent with some from thread to thread... from subject to subject.

Also this forum's life blood would appear to be largely revolving christians telling one another what they are wrong about would it not? That is basically what keeps this place alive. It would be a pretty dead place without that particular tendency among posters.

But... that being said...

I think there is plenty of telling others that they are wrong on both sides of the issue. Don't you think so too?

Threads like this don't live this long with a bunch of non-practicing folks coming into their own thread and continually posting how wrong others are without plenty of entries from an opposing view returning the favor.

Plenty of posts made on both sides of the fence are simply discussing... offering thoughts etc and aren't presented or intended to tell anyone they are wrong... it is simply discussion of the subject matter. That is to be recognized as well. But I think it would be fair to say that this isn't a one sided issue where only one side is telling the other that they are wrong.
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:35 AM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

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My friend you have the birth of Christ confused with Xmas. I am thankful He was born and preach about His birth often. There would be NO Calvary without the Incarnation. This has ZERO to do with XMAS. Decorating trees has what to do with His birth? Like colored eggs with the resurrection. His birth is NOT less important to us who do not put up Xmas trees maybe it is even more important.
I do not decorate our tree to worhsip the King of Kings.

I decorate it because of the season.

Much like we put out flowers in the spring to denote the season.

We drink apple cider, eat apple pie.

We eat turkey......

Do I worship the turkey, the cider or the apple pie and not Christ...

No.

It does appear to me that many do worship the Apple pie.

But that is another story...

Simply decorating things around you in the season does not denote worship or assimilate to the birth of Christ.

It is simply part of the season....

To answer your question, my Tree or decorations has nothing to do with the birth of Christ....

With all of the hoopla of the season.

The commercialism, the party's etc...

I will not take Christ out of the season because of what others do or have changed it into...
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