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Old 11-04-2008, 02:37 PM
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Say the working people supported 55% of the population, and had to do so because they could never elect anyone to change things.

Obviously the 55% will grow, im sure you can see why.

Is this democracy good, or bad?

Ok, I admit that I am unsure as to how to answer your question. I guess bad, but I am not sure the relevance.

Sometimes, I'm slow.
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Ok, I admit that I am unsure as to how to answer your question. I guess bad, but I am not sure the relevance.

Sometimes, I'm slow.
That works, thanks.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:49 PM
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Ferd,
we live in a representative democracy.

I disagree with allowing only folks who are property owners the right to vote.

There are many hard working Americans who do not own property, who are guaranteed the right to vote-- and I am glad.


That is the America I know and love. An America where all men are created equal, regardless of their economic status, regardless of their opninions.
well I realize that the vast majority agree with you so that doesnt bother me one bit....

but we live in a democratic Republic and that is a bit of a difference.

I dont care how you say it, I dont think folk who are on the public dole, or who dont actually pay income taxes ought to have a say in how other peoples money gets spent.

maybe thats how we do it, show up with your w-2. if you either pay nothing or get more money back than you paid, you dont get to vote.
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well I realize that the vast majority agree with you so that doesnt bother me one bit....

but we live in a democratic Republic and that is a bit of a difference.

I dont care how you say it, I dont think folk who are on the public dole, or who dont actually pay income taxes ought to have a say in how other peoples money gets spent.

maybe thats how we do it, show up with your w-2. if you either pay nothing or get more money back than you paid, you dont get to vote.
I hope it never gets that way.
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(1) Wow.

(2) Sen. Obama isn't promising free health care or free education. He is promising it to be more affordable, an idea needed (and attractive) to more than just the ghetto dwellers.

(3) The reason the polls are open early is to give everyone the opportunity to make the effort to vote. What happens to the man who works shift work and can not make it to the polls 4 November?

Now, thanks to politicians more acquainted with the every day struggles of many working folks, people have the opportunity to make their voice heard in this country that we all call home.
1399, Obama isnt going to make college cost go down. He is going to make it go up.

by giving people this 5K refundable tax credit for college, what will happen is, first the cost of school will shift from those going to school to other tax payers, then secondly it will put a greater demand on schools because more people will go to school which will raise the cost of a college education.

Obamas college tax credit is a shell game that takes $$$ from one group and hands it to another, provides a greater method to indoctrinate the masses in liberalism and hands off LARGE $$$ to liberal elete colleges.
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I hope it never gets that way.
I completely understand that I am in the major minority.

But I dont understand why anyone would think it is right for someone to get to have a say in how things are done when they bring nothing to the table.

my kids dont get a vote at dinner time much less how their mom and I spend our income.

why would I want someone who can only vote to take money from my kids for themselves to have a say?

1399, the year I got married 1995, I made $5,000 for the entire year. I know what it means to be poor. I know what it means to eat beans every night because thats all you can afford.

i dont speak with a lack of compassion. You want to have a seat at the table, make something of yourself. That is what I did.
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I completely understand that I am in the major minority.

But I dont understand why anyone would think it is right for someone to get to have a say in how things are done when they bring nothing to the table.

my kids dont get a vote at dinner time much less how their mom and I spend our income.

why would I want someone who can only vote to take money from my kids for themselves to have a say?

1399, the year I got married 1995, I made $5,000 for the entire year. I know what it means to be poor. I know what it means to eat beans every night because thats all you can afford.

i dont speak with a lack of compassion. You want to have a seat at the table, make something of yourself. That is what I did.


Well because of my government sponsored vo-tech education, I learned how to make my own table!
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:20 PM
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Well because of my government sponsored vo-tech education, I learned how to make my own table!
LOL! good for you!
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I think his prediction is inflated.

I think he is putting the number out there in order to somehow make some would be Democrat voters overconfident, so that they won't persevere the inevitable long lines when it comes time to vote.


Sen. McCain can still win this election. He is not really far behind.

He can win the swing states and then some.
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