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10-31-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
sky angel aired his weekly tv show... sometimes they showed demonic deliverance...
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10-31-2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
Maybe the people on his show are really good actors. If he said UPC'ers(I'm not UPC) were heretics, then he really is against us, not for us.
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10-31-2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams
I believe Larson is legit as he is casting out devils in Jesus' Name. His doctrine is wrong, and his salvation is between him and God, but he really is casting out devils. I've cast devils out of two men and witnessed it done to my brother when I was a child, and the people Larson deals with are exhibiting the telltale signs of possession. But like Jesus said, casting out devils in His Name doesn't guarantee salvation.
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Ok, I was cautious above...but I'll throw some of that caution to the wind now.
I know demons were cast out in the Bible. But...
Isn't it convenient how many demon possessed people show up at events like the one in the video? Or, do we all have a demon we just don't know about? Hey, I know..maybe that's why all this stuff keeps happening to me! Or, maybe...stuff just happens.
And, how exactly did I do all the things I did, and walk away without being demon possessed? Seriously. If random people walking down the street are possessed, why am I not after years of essentially asking for it? Or again we can go back to the "maybe I really am and I just don't know it.."
Her nose twitched if she got too close to a cross? I could just go so many different directions with that. Let's start with the fact that the cross isn't where the power is. Let's go from there to the fact that Jesus was most likely *not* crucified on a cross that looks like all the pretty necklaces out there. And her nose twitched? Like Bewitched? Please, please give me a break.
I am way not in the mood to go into great detail about my experiences with demons and spiritual warfare tonight, but a nose twitch is not it. Neither is what she described about the inner urges and desires... That's called being human and we all battle with that. Unless she was very seriously downplaying what was happening, and I don't see how anyone who's really experienced it could sit there in front of a camera, presumably being willing to go into detail...isn't that why she was there?...and skip over that difference. And no, I can't find the words to describe it..I'll give her that much benefit of the doubt. But I wouldn't just sit there calmly and say there were inner urges..I'd be doing my very best to hunt for words and expressions to try to describe it, and probably look the part of a fool stumbling over words and being quite fidgity. And I just realized, trying to figure out how I would try to explain it, that part of why it'd be so uncomfortable is because even just thinking about my experiences causes me to relive those sensations and those experiences. They weren't so pleasant in the first place. *And those were external experiences with demons...not possession.*
I don't buy her story, I'm sorry. And it causes me to really doubt the guy. Especially when I weigh that alongside what he had to say. He's too flippant about it. I dare bet if he ever met a demon face to face that he was actually battling with, he'd be quite in shock.
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10-31-2008, 08:02 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
I don't buy her story, I'm sorry. And it causes me to really doubt the guy. Especially when I weigh that alongside what he had to say. He's too flippant about it. I dare bet if he ever met a demon face to face that he was actually battling with, he'd be quite in shock.
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I think he's messing up in the relationship big time and it's easier to blame it on devils.
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10-31-2008, 08:03 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
He's a fake. He has the same people sometimes on his "show" having a demon cast out. They are actors at the very least or mentally unstable at best. Crosses and Bibles slammed against their head is not how you cast out demons.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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10-31-2008, 08:05 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
auto suggestion of the weak minded. Same way Benny gets the whole front row to fall over by saying "Fire on you". They expect it to happen and so it does
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-31-2008, 08:06 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
auto suggestion of the weak minded. Same way Benny gets the whole front row to fall over by saying "Fire on you". They expect it to happen and so it does
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Exactly.
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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10-31-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
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Originally Posted by ILG
I think he's messing up in the relationship big time and it's easier to blame it on devils.
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I meant the Bob Larson guy. lol
I think her guy needs to take some responsibility and figure out how he's going to approach his life from here. I know others who have pulled out of where he is...and others who haven't. There's no easy answer with that much going on, but starting out by saying "I'm here, I don't wanna be anymore, what can I do to change things?" could go a long ways towards getting somewhere.......
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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10-31-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
I meant the Bob Larson guy. lol
I think her guy needs to take some responsibility and figure out how he's going to approach his life from here. I know others who have pulled out of where he is...and others who haven't. There's no easy answer with that much going on, but starting out by saying "I'm here, I don't wanna be anymore, what can I do to change things?" could go a long ways towards getting somewhere.......
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Oh. LOL!
But, yeah, that would go much farther than what they are doing in that "service".
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10-31-2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"
Okay, point taken. I can't see the video here at work, I've just seen others very quickly on a documentary about possession. Like I said, maybe they are good actors. The nose twitch thing sounds a bit ignorant. The fact that he calls UPC'ers heretics seals the deal. He's a fake, got it.
The last time we had to cast out devils, the possessed man almost overpowered about fifteen to twenty grown men from the congregation, myself included. It took a while, but deliverance finally came. I haven't seen any of Bob's cases that severe.(or any other TV preacher)
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