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Old 08-03-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: McCain Allows Daughter to Choose to Abort?

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This is the same lame response you gave in the other thread, to which I replied HOGWASH!
You can call it hogwash if you like. But it is fact.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:09 PM
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You can call it hogwash if you like. But it is fact.
Being pro-choice is not the same as committing murder, VB. You can repeat that lie as many times as you want, but it still won't be true. Obama hasn't murdered anyone. He just doesn't believe it his place, or the governments, to make the choice for or against an abortion for anyone. What other of your religious beliefs do you feel you have the right to force upon others?
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Being pro-choice is not the same as committing murder, VB. You can repeat that lie as many times as you want, but it still won't be true. Obama hasn't murdered anyone. He just doesn't believe it his place, or the governments, to make the choice for or against an abortion for anyone. What other of your religious beliefs do you feel you have the right to force upon others?
Do you believe that there are any crimes which capitol punishment is appropriate?
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Old 08-04-2008, 09:52 AM
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Being pro-choice is not the same as committing murder, VB. You can repeat that lie as many times as you want, but it still won't be true. Obama hasn't murdered anyone. He just doesn't believe it his place, or the governments, to make the choice for or against an abortion for anyone. What other of your religious beliefs do you feel you have the right to force upon others?
It is more then just a religious belief. It is an American belief.

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..."

Even Babies have the right to life. No one has the right to kill them in the name of convenience.
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It is more then just a religious belief. It is an American belief.

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..."

Even Babies have the right to life. No one has the right to kill them in the name of convenience.
This is funny. When that was written, black people weren't even considered persons. Listen, don't try to hide behind anything other than your opposition to abortion stemming from your religious beliefs. Trust me, that's a much better justification than the one you are trying to use in the above post.
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:31 PM
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This is funny. When that was written, black people weren't even considered persons. Listen, don't try to hide behind anything other than your opposition to abortion stemming from your religious beliefs. Trust me, that's a much better justification than the one you are trying to use in the above post.
Rico, I don't hide behind anything. It is both a biblical issue, and a humane issue.

It is sad that someone who considers themselves to be a christian looks at a little child as a choice and not a life. It is obvious that is your stance. No need to argue with you anymore about it. Instead, I will pray for you.
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Rico, I don't hide behind anything. It is both a biblical issue, and a humane issue.

It is sad that someone who considers themselves to be a christian looks at a little child as a choice and not a life. It is obvious that is your stance. No need to argue with you anymore about it. Instead, I will pray for you.
Save your prayers for someone who needs them, VB. I have stated repeatedly that I am against abortion and would never counsel a woman to have one. I can not help it that people like you can not seem to wrap your narrow minds around the fact that I don't believe I have the right to force my religious beliefs on other people. You think the answer lies in the government forcing women to have children against their will. What you don't realize is that, if the government can force a woman to have a child it can also force a woman not to have a child. I just assume the government not have any more control over people than it already has.
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Save your prayers for someone who needs them, VB. I have stated repeatedly that I am against abortion and would never counsel a woman to have one. I can not help it that people like you can not seem to wrap your narrow minds around the fact that I don't believe I have the right to force my religious beliefs on other people. You think the answer lies in the government forcing women to have children against their will. What you don't realize is that, if the government can force a woman to have a child it can also force a woman not to have a child. I just assume the government not have any more control over people than it already has.
You apparently do not have a correct concept of abortion for convience sake.

Do you not think that we should have a law against murder? Do you think a woman who has a 10 year old kid should be able to kill that kid if she decides she no longer wants it?
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You apparently do not have a correct concept of abortion for convience sake.

Do you not think that we should have a law against murder? Do you think a woman who has a 10 year old kid should be able to kill that kid if she decides she no longer wants it?
VB, there is a big difference between a living breathing human and a developing one. You are trying to compare apples to oranges.
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You apparently do not have a correct concept of abortion for convience sake.

Do you not think that we should have a law against murder? Do you think a woman who has a 10 year old kid should be able to kill that kid if she decides she no longer wants it?
Vr, what would be your response (your direct level of action and outrage), if you voted for politicians for decades in large part due to the fact that they were against killing 10 year old kids, then once they got into office on the back of that support, they did not stop the murders of those kids. What if in the year 2003 alone (well into the Presidency of such a politician and at a time when those politicians controlled the Hill and the majority of the Appointees to the Supreme Court), there were 854,122 documented cases of the killing of 10 year olds.
How many years would you blindly continue to support the patronizing lip-service that those politicians paid to such an atrocity. How long would you bash people who did not blindly support those politicians. How long could you claim some sort of spiritual or moral high ground because you do.
I am sick and tired of the abortion issue becoming just a box that people and politicians check off and feel sanctimonious about.
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