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Old 07-26-2008, 07:31 AM
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Rico, we've been over this before.
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:34 AM
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:45 AM
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God only told Adam not to eat of it; but Eve said in Gen 3 that she was not to eat or touch it. So who told her not to touch it? Is it possible that since God told Adam not to eat of it, that Adam created a rule/standard for Eve not to touch it? There is nothing written that God said anything about not touching it. Did God use Adam to create a rule/standard about not even touching it? Is it within the realm of possibility?

Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:3 was Eve speaking to the serpent, not God (or Adam for that matter). I beleive that it is possible that Eve was "psyched out" when she was approached by the serpent and perhaps misquoted what God (or Adam for that matter) had said. I think the serpent knew he had a better chance of deceiving Eve than he did Adam, so his approach was to Eve first because the serpent was "wise".
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In God's chain of command, Adam was also the pastor...for safety sake or love of his bride he said don't touch it.

Thus when he made the rule and told her, she who had not talked with the Lord took his words as being from the Lord.

The implication being that a pastor makes rules according to his love for the bride and not out of spite or vainglory..at least this should be the condition of the extra rules added.
Why would Eve need a Pastor if neither of them had sinned yet? They did not know what good and evil was. They did not know what temptation was, They did not know there was a Devil for that matter that would try to make them eat. God never warned them as far as the written word goes.
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Old 07-26-2008, 03:24 PM
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Why would Eve need a Pastor if neither of them had sinned yet? They did not know what good and evil was. They did not know what temptation was, They did not know there was a Devil for that matter that would try to make them eat. God never warned them as far as the written word goes.
Anything to justify building a fence 100 ft. away from and around what the bible teaches.
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Old 07-26-2008, 04:32 PM
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Rico, we've been over this before.
Well, I gotta get the word out, Brother! It's only been recently that I settled the question in my own mind, even though the answer was staring me right in the face all along.
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