Have You Been to WWPF Lately?

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Can you turn your head fast enough when a less than Godly budweiser commercial comes on? Or maybe you can close your eyes and cover your ears real, real fast.

We are to live in this world not seperate from it. We should insulate ourselves against the things that are not good. If I were to turn my head at every bad thing that came up throughout the day I would get no work done. I would not even get to my job. There would be no way for me to get to church. You insulate yourself to it and if you have God in your heart and life you certainly have no desire for the bad things.

Yes yes I know the scripture but we still have to LIVE IN this world. Israel did not keep from trading with the rest of the world. They simply took the good and left the bad behind. The same thing we have to do today in our society.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

We are to live in this world not seperate from it. We should insulate ourselves against the things that are not good. If I were to turn my head at every bad thing that came up throughout the day I would get no work done. I would not even get to my job. There would be no way for me to get to church. You insulate yourself to it and if you have God in your heart and life you certainly have no desire for the bad things.

Yes yes I know the scripture but we still have to LIVE IN this world. Israel did not keep from trading with the rest of the world. They simply took the good and left the bad behind. The same thing we have to do today in our society.

There is a difference between living your life and seeing junk..but.. to purposely put something in front of your face, knowing you'll see junk is not right. Rationalizing is the only option you have. Tv is for entertainment. You know Brother, I do not make these posts in maliciousness.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

There is a difference between living your life and seeing junk..but.. to purposely put something in front of your face, knowing you'll see junk is not right. Rationalizing is the only option you have. Tv is for entertainment. You know Brother, I do not make these posts in maliciousness.

I do know. I just don't agree with you completely. =)

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

I do know. I just don't agree with you completely. =)

rationalizing?

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

rationalizing?

no. I just do not see it the same as you. TV does not stop us from our prayer life. TV does not stop us from our family time. If something is on that we do not approve of or like we change it or turn it off. We are always going to have things in our face that are not good. I understand what you say about why put it there unnecessarily. The point I am making is that I really can not go to work if I do that. We have billboards that advertise sex sex and more sex. Straight sex. Gay sex. There are advertisements for casino's. anything that anyone can call wrong all over the place. I really could not go to work if I had to close my eyes or turn my head at everything, and I only live 6 miles from my office.
That is why I say we insulate ourselves from it. We pray and serve God and avoid what we can. If you want to watch a show and something comes on you turn the channel or turn it off or down. Now days you can even tivo things and not have to watch the commercials.

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

no. I just do not see it the same as you. TV does not stop us from our prayer life. TV does not stop us from our family time. If something is on that we do not approve of or like we change it or turn it off. We are always going to have things in our face that are not good. I understand what you say about why put it there unnecessarily. The point I am making is that I really can not go to work if I do that. We have billboards that advertise sex sex and more sex. Straight sex. Gay sex. There are advertisements for casino's. anything that anyone can call wrong all over the place. I really could not go to work if I had to close my eyes or turn my head at everything, and I only live 6 miles from my office.
That is why I say we insulate ourselves from it. We pray and serve God and avoid what we can. If you want to watch a show and something comes on you turn the channel or turn it off or down. Now days you can even tivo things and not have to watch the commercials.

Do you want me to go on with this subject or would you rather stop?

Having tv in your house, and you put it there, and you knew you'd see trash is different then going to work. You chose to be entertained and knew what you'd see was not good. Can you watch everything you watch, with your babies sitting next to you? Desensitized, is a word that comes to my mind.
Do you repent daily for setting something evil before your eyes... and not walking in thine house with a clean heart?? I'll discuss against tv as long as your up for it. Just because there are jerks in the ACI (in every org.) does not change the book.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Do you want me to go on with this subject or would you rather stop?

Having tv in your house, and you put it there, and you knew you'd see trash is different then going to work. You chose to be entertained and knew what you'd see was not good. Can you watch everything you watch, with your babies sitting next to you? Desensitized, is a word that comes to my mind.
Do you repent daily for setting something evil before your eyes... and not walking in thine house with a clean heart?? I'll discuss against tv as long as your up for it. Just because there are jerks in the ACI (in every org.) does not change the book.

You can discuss it all day long. Doesn't mean you will say anything that will change my mind.

There are men in the ACI that have TV's now? when did that happen?

[Tim Rutledge]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

You can discuss it all day long. Doesn't mean you will say anything that will change my mind.

There are men in the ACI that have TV's now? when did that happen?

Brother.. I may of went over board attacking the tv thing. Forgive me. If any of the ACI guys got tv in their house, it was when they compromised. Talk to you later. God bless.
TR

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Brother.. I may of went over board attacking the tv thing. Forgive me. If any of the ACI guys got tv in their house, it was when they compromised. Talk to you later. God bless.
TR

no problem


If they do have them in their homes I would not be surprised. There are many that I used to go to camp with that preached against it yet would stay at hotels and watch it. They would not go to the theater but would go to broadway shows. Same difference in my opinion. Also would not go to the theater but would rent them and watch at home.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by tstew

Your personal testimony is an example of why we should be teaching Biblical principles. Just set no evil thing before your eyes...no matter where they are. If you are unable to obey that principle when around a TV...then don't be around a TV. There are many who can responsibly watch a TV and avoid all of the evil things that you mentioned (not sure what channels you were watching though, ), but cannot resist the temptation of those things that you listed (which can much more readily be found online in much more extreme forms and can even come to you without you looking for it). Plus there is the whole added dimension of the interpersonal relationships that can be developed online.
What happens when nobody has TVs anymore because they are completely obsolete, but we have an entire generation of people who have problems with the new technologies because instead of instilling Biblical principle, we were busy railing against a specific technology.

The problem I had when I experimented outside of the UPC/WPF was that you could find a decent program to watch, but then a commercial comes on with a half-naked woman advertising bras; etc. I and my WPF pastor has agreed that there are some good things on tv, however you have to wade through the much bad to get to the little good; then when you find something good, you have commercials showing something bad.

I can live without TV - mankind did it for thousands of years and somehow survived. Whatever need one thinks TV fulfills, somehow for thousands of years, man was able to satisfy that need without TV. TV is not a need, it is a want.

The question is, does it have power over you or do you have power of it? And does one abstain from ALL appearance of evil. In society we may not be able to control what comes before our eyes, but when it comes to TV, we have control; so what do WE allow to come before our eyes.

This is what David had to say...

Psa 101:2 I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.
Psa 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.