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Old 06-22-2008, 04:08 PM
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist

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Watches are jewelry given the above def. as well as any ornament for personal adornment.
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Watches do have a purpose. They tell us the time. However, any other extra stuff, (rings, bracelets, scarves, neckties, earrings, noserings), are strictly ornamental. Years ago a cloth tied around one's neck had a purpose when it was used for wiping the mouth. Since neckties are no longer used for wiping the mouth, face, nose, etc they serve no useful purpose and are strictly ornamental.

As someone has stated, 1 Peter 3:3-6 does not condemn the combing and styling of hair, the wearing of ornaments, or the wearing of clothing/apparel. Instead it places the emphasis on the inner person and having the adornment of a quiet (calm/peaceful) and gentle spirit. Abraham's wife, Sarah, is given as an example. We are not told how she dressed. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 speaks of a person's real distinguishing characteristics such as moderation and good works in contrast to outward style such as gold, pearls, expensive clothing. In other words, is the person defined by the merely outward secondary things such as clothing and hair styles or by an attitude of loving and serving?
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No all Johnsonites sound like him.
I want to grow up to be a major pain (wanted to say something else) like him.
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I say the SAME thing JESUS say, such as(fools, hypocrites, and so on), and you'll say thats a shame. Would you say thats a shame to Jesus. REMEMBER JESUS SAID IT FIRST. AND JESUS IS ALWAY RIGHT
You were warned. Jesus also said some would be cast into outer darkness and I am about ready to do that to you.

YOU ARE NOT JESUS.
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Watches do have a purpose. They tell us the time. However, any other extra stuff, (rings, bracelets, scarves, neckties, earrings, noserings), are strictly ornamental. Years ago a cloth tied around one's neck had a purpose when it was used for wiping the mouth. Since neckties are no longer used for wiping the mouth, face, nose, etc they serve no useful purpose and are strictly ornamental.

As someone has stated, 1 Peter 3:3-6 does not condemn the combing and styling of hair, the wearing of ornaments, or the wearing of clothing/apparel. Instead it places the emphasis on the inner person and having the adornment of a quiet (calm/peaceful) and gentle spirit. Abraham's wife, Sarah, is given as an example. We are not told how she dressed. 1 Timothy 2:9-10 speaks of a person's real distinguishing characteristics such as moderation and good works in contrast to outward style such as gold, pearls, expensive clothing. In other words, is the person defined by the merely outward secondary things such as clothing and hair styles or by an attitude of loving and serving?
Sam ever thing has a purpose
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist

Now lets go to the bible. Bible says in 1Corinthians 1:10 That ye ALL speak the SAME thing, and in 1Timothy 1:3 that they teach NO OTHER DOCTRINE. So what I say you suppose to say, and what you say I suppose to say, if we all believed the SAME way. But you'll don't everyone of you have a doctrine that is different then the other
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Re: Just spent two hours talking with a PAW minist

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Watches do have a purpose. They tell us the time. However, any other extra stuff, (rings, bracelets, scarves, neckties, earrings, noserings), are strictly ornamental. Years ago a cloth tied around one's neck had a purpose when it was used for wiping the mouth. Since neckties are no longer used for wiping the mouth, face, nose, etc they serve no useful purpose and are strictly ornamental.
What about those pen necklaces?
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No all Johnsonites sound like him.
Now that's what we should all strive to be, an "ite", not a CHRISTian
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And also, i'm not a Johnsonite. I'm a christian. So Steve how about you call me a Christianite. ha ha ha ah
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Johnson said the same thing I say, and the bible says it even so.
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I want to grow up to be a major pain (wanted to say something else) like him.
Do you mean as in the old phrase "pain in the neck" or did you have a somewhat lower opinion of him?
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