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Old 04-30-2008, 06:31 PM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...

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With good cause! Fortunately the doctors are fairly easily able to tell if the story lines up with the kind of break that occurs.
Thank God for THAT!! Our last ER visit was just last month!!
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:32 PM
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Doctors and family members interviewed by New Times say up to 20 children from families in the polygamist community are currently afflicted with the condition that requires full-time attention from caregivers. Victims suffer a range of symptoms, including severe epileptic seizures, inability to walk or even sit upright, severe speech impediments, failure to grow at a normal rate, and tragic physical deformities.

"They are in terrible shape," says Dr. Kirk A. Aleck, director of the Pediatric Neurogenetics Center at St. Joseph's Hospital. Aleck is a geneticist who participated along with Tarby and others in the groundbreaking study of several polygamous families with fumarase deficiency in the late 1990s.

From the Phoenix News as well.
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1. What do you think the rate of birth defects are in the general population?

2. Who is taking care of these special needs children now? Do you think anyone will take care of them as well as their own mothers? Really?
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:37 PM
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1. What do you think the rate of birth defects are in the general population?

2. Who is taking care of these special needs children now? Do you think anyone will take care of them as well as their own mothers? Really?
Sister,

These defects are PREVENTABLE!

Who takes care of these unfortunate souls is not the focus of my interest.

These defects are PREVENTABLE!

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Old 04-30-2008, 06:42 PM
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2 Points

1. What do you think the rate of birth defects are in the general population?

2. Who is taking care of these special needs children now? Do you think anyone will take care of them as well as their own mothers? Really?
And so we stand by and let them produce more special needs children? Brittle bone disease is not that common.

We also have laws in this country about how closely you can be related to someone and still marry them. Those laws were put in place for reasons such as this.
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:48 PM
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I read this report but don't see where there is evidence of abuse. The numbers of children with a history of broken bones given are less than 10% of the total number of children taken. I think you could find the same percentage in any elementary school!

So, what does this mean? They indicate that the children were treated by doctors, but none of them reported suspected abuse. I find that hard to believe if they were truly being abused.
The sect is the one saying that if any children had broken bones they would have been taken to doctors outside the compound, not that they had taken any children to hospitals or doctors for broken bones.
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:51 PM
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Surprise! There doesn't seem to be 50-60 year old men at this ranch. There also seems to be a lack of very young girls just past puberty being forced into marriage.

CPS has a problem because they don't normally take babies away from teen-age moms and do DNA testing to make sure they know who the father is.

You know how everyone gets searched at the airport now just so it doesn't look like we are picking on Muslims? Same principle applies. It looks like religous persecution EVEN if statistically speaking only Muslims blow up planes.
How old do you think Warren Jeff's is? And how do you know there are no 50-60 yr old men there? Where are you getting this info from?
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:18 PM
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How old do you think Warren Jeff's is? And how do you know there are no 50-60 yr old men there? Where are you getting this info from?
Warren Jeffs is 53.
He doesn't live in Eldorado though.
He will hopefully be in the Utah State Prison for a long time.
There are older men living in Eldorado.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:25 PM
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I posted the article to reference AG's comments. We don't have all the facts as it is a legal case and everything is not going to be revealed upfront.
Ok, gotcha.
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That quote isn't entirely accurate, considering they don't mention ages involved. Knowing that there are very young girls present among those who were seized, it's unlikely that 60% represents anything close to being accurate.
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I understand that the average is 1% per year outside of El Dorado.
One percent of children have had broken bones?

I have 50% in my house represented!

I don't believe that one out of every one hundred children have had a broken bone sometime in their life.

There is a member on this forum who has a 8 yr old daughter that had broken three of her four extremities in her life! Someone call CPS!!!
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