Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Subdued

Not in MY house! LOL Of course, I don't live in TX.

I believe that percentage is "average".

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I believe that percentage is "average".

Ahhhh - gotcha!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I guess you mean they found video tapes or other doctumentation??

Evidence of broken bones NOT being found in a large family of children would be unusual I would think.

I recall at least 5 in our family of of nine growing up... there was no child abuse in our family.

If my oldest daughter were to be x-rayed, they'd find she's had two broken legs and a broken collarbone. Would that automatically mean I beat her? Apparently so, according to some.

[Subdued]

Originally Posted by Rico

If my oldest daughter were to be x-rayed, they'd find she's had two broken legs and a broken collarbone. Would that automatically mean I beat her? Apparently so, according to some.

My two daughters have had three broken bones EACH; and my son has had one. I worry when we go to the ER now!!!!

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I understand that the average is 1% per year outside of El Dorado.

Sounds like apples and oranges. Aren't the Texas authorities talking broken bones from birth til this point in time cumultively in the lives of these children?

How unconvincing. Their own doctor/witness saw the children and had no suspcian of physical abuse or broken bones. There certainly weren't any current broken bones they were telling us about nor black and blue bodies.

In fact, their own expert witness thought the young children should be returned to their mothers whom he had seen them interacting with.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Subdued

My two daughters have had three broken bones EACH; and my son has had one. I worry when we go to the ER now!!!!

With good cause! Fortunately the doctors are fairly easily able to tell if the story lines up with the kind of break that occurs.

[Nina]

these folk have more than brittle bones to worry about.

This is from The Phoenix News concerning Fumarase Deficiency, an inbreeding defect.

Medical experts say the incidence of the disorder will increase because the FLDS community is refusing to accept recommendations to reduce the likelihood of producing babies with fumarase deficiency. Tarby says he discussed the disease and its causes during a town meeting on November 18, 2004, that was attended by more than 100 FLDS members.

Tarby says he explained to the gathering at Town Hall in Colorado City that the only way to stop fumarase deficiency in the community is to abort fetuses that test positive for the disease and for the community to stop intermarriages between Barlows and Jessops, Barlows and Barlows and Jessops and Jessops.

Tarby says members of the community made it clear that neither choice was acceptable. Tarby recounts a conversation he had with a member of the Barlow clan in which he tried to explain why so much fumarase deficiency was occurring among Mormon polygamists.

"I said, 'You're married to somebody you're related to. That leads to problems.'

"The man's response was, 'Up here, we are all related,'" Tarby says. "They just don't worry about the effects of intermarriage."

Tarby says the disease could begin to show up in children at Warren Jeffs' new FLDS headquarters under construction on a 1,600-acre ranch outside of Eldorado. The FLDS already has moved several hundred men, women and children to the compound, many of whom very likely carry the fumarase deficiency gene.

[Nina]

Aren't women who give birth to crack addicted babies arrested at birth?
Do Ya'll see the connection?

[Nina]

Doctors and family members interviewed by New Times say up to 20 children from families in the polygamist community are currently afflicted with the condition that requires full-time attention from caregivers. Victims suffer a range of symptoms, including severe epileptic seizures, inability to walk or even sit upright, severe speech impediments, failure to grow at a normal rate, and tragic physical deformities.

"They are in terrible shape," says Dr. Kirk A. Aleck, director of the Pediatric Neurogenetics Center at St. Joseph's Hospital. Aleck is a geneticist who participated along with Tarby and others in the groundbreaking study of several polygamous families with fumarase deficiency in the late 1990s.

From the Phoenix News as well.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Newman

Sounds like apples and oranges. Aren't the Texas authorities talking broken bones from birth til this point in time cumultively in the lives of these children?

How unconvincing. Their own doctor/witness saw the children and had no suspcian of physical abuse or broken bones. There certainly weren't any current broken bones they were telling us about nor black and blue bodies.

In fact, their own expert witness thought the young children should be returned to their mothers whom he had seen them interacting with.

I believe I did post an article explaining the condition of the children's bones by a spokesman representing the compound. So, I was trying to be fair as shocking as that may seem to you.

Texas official: Evidence of broken bones, possible sexual abuse found in FLDS kids


Salt Lake City attorney Rod Parker accused the department of putting out "misleading information" to malign the polygamous sect.
Parker said some children in the community have brittle bone disease and that Texas Child Protective Services was informed of that.
"That makes some of the children more susceptible to broken bones," Parker said. "The mothers told CPS about that when they were taken in. They've known all along that the reason they might see higher incidence of broken bones was due to this condition. They have no evidence to support the implication it is due to child abuse."
Cockerell shared the information with the Texas Senate Health and Human Services Committee, which met Wednesday morning in Austin.
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9106612