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Old 03-04-2008, 12:33 AM
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Interesting Quote by Obama

"I will tell you that I don't believe in gay marriage, but I do think that people who are gay and lesbian should be treated with dignity and respect and that the state should not discriminate against them. So, I believe in civil unions that allow a same-sex couple to visit each other in a hospital or transfer property to each other. I don't think it should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state. If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans. That's my view. But we can have a respectful disagreement on that."

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Old 03-04-2008, 04:48 AM
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I will tell you that I don't believe in gay marriage, but I do think that people who are gay and lesbian should be treated with dignity and respect and that the state should not discriminate against them. So, I believe in civil unions that allow a same-sex couple to visit each other in a hospital or transfer property to each other. I don't think it should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state. If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans. That's my view. But we can have a respectful disagreement on that.

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Praxeas,

You had me so confused, I thought the paragraph was you talking! Please put it in quotes! I was reading along waiting to know what Obama said!

The scripture in Romans is not obscure but it is as clear as the crystal.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:12 AM
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Re: Interesting Quote by Obama

I would wonder how Obama got the impression that any scripture in the Bible is classified as "obscure".
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:29 AM
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Praxeas,

You had me so confused, I thought the paragraph was you talking! Please put it in quotes! I was reading along waiting to know what Obama said!
After reading Prax's posts throughout the years/months/etc, there's no way I'd get the impression that he was speaking his thoughts...

And the fact that the thread's title, is "Quote by Obama"... I thought it was obvious that it wasn't Prax speaking, but Obama (even without the quotes around the words)...
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:44 AM
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After reading Prax's posts throughout the years/months/etc, there's no way I'd get the impression that he was speaking his thoughts...

And the fact that the thread's title, is "Quote by Obama"... I thought it was obvious that it wasn't Prax speaking, but Obama (even without the quotes around the words)...
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Re: Interesting Quote by Obama

obscure is a word of convenience, obviously other than jesus himself the greatest teacher of the nt church was paul, nothing he said is obscure to a true believer, imho, obama is not right, aint gettin my support or vote, dt
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: Interesting Quote by Obama

So what does Obama really believe? Sounds like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
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Re: Interesting Quote by Obama

Well if we follow his logic then all other abominations should be granted this same dignity and respect right? Murderer's, rapists, thieves, etc. And it is not very obscure at all. In fact it is very plainly stated. He must have read a different version.
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Well if we follow his logic then all other abominations should be granted this same dignity and respect right? Murderer's, rapists, thieves, etc. And it is not very obscure at all. In fact it is very plainly stated. He must have read a different version.
Murder, rape, and stealing are against the law, so not really the same.

However, Obama should be consistent and give women who wear pants a free ride as well.



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So what does Obama really believe? Sounds like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
I want to know where in the Sermon on the Mount Jesus said that we should treat people that work abominations against Him with dignity and respect. It must be an obscure verse.

He seems to believe whatever will help to get him elected. After this any christian that votes for him needs to read the first chapter of Romans.
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