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ChristopherHall · #**151** 02-25-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

How do you group neo-cons w/ the fascists? Do you know what neo-con refers to?

This might help a little. It's an article from the American Conservative.

http://www.amconmag.com/06_30_03/feature.html

ChristopherHall · #**152** 02-25-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Chris, please stop with the goofy stuff. you are embarrassing yourself!

Dude, please! Republicans dealt with a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. NO law was passed that the Dems didn't agree to prevent from passing!

much of the legislation that did pass, that Bush did sign was supported by a number of democrats.

Are you going to say the same thing if Obama wins and the Dems pick up seats in both houses of congress? will the Dems all the sudden be Fascists???

what hypocrisy! but then again, hypocrisy seems to be the name of the game with you.

Leading Republicans, defend torture in a most Clintonesque fashion. "Is water boarding torture?" "Is our current policy condoning torture?"

Leading Republican answer, "It depends what the definition of 'is' is."

Leading Republicans have lowered America to a two bit regime with disregard of human rights...to the point of looking the other way in regards to torture.

http://www.amazon.com/Torture-Papers.../dp/0521853249

Human Rights Watch:
http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/torture.htm

This is a real issue that needs to be addressed.

ChristopherHall · #**153** 02-25-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Bro, Chirs reads Moveon.org and just starts regurgitating.

he cant help it.

Actually, I haven't been out to Moveon.org. But maybe they're on to something, though I'm sure I might disagree on some issues of theirs.

Instead of attempting to discredit through fabricated association...defend your indefensible position.

SDG · #**154** 02-25-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

So evidently Ferd doesn't believe that leaders should lead according to the common good? Again he reveals his neo-conservative elitist views. Now the question is....who's good does Ferd prefer government officials work toward? The answer....the good of the globalist corporate elite that run the Republican Party.

U need to burn your Farenheit 9/11 DVD, Chris.

ChristopherHall · #**155** 02-25-2008, 04:28 PM

The subject of "torture" is one that has to be addressed. Again the statists argue against human rights based on the value issued by the state. There is a morality greater than the Government or any human constitution.

Besides, information gained under torture isn't reliable seeing men will confess anything to end their torment.

ChristopherHall · #**156** 02-25-2008, 04:32 PM

Republicans should be highly upset with President Bush and this current stock of Republican leaders. They have shamed our nation and if the Democrats win (and almost all agree that they will) the Republicans only have one place to place the responsibility...Bush/Cheney Inc.

ChristopherHall · #**157** 02-25-2008, 04:34 PM

Many would say,

Democrat = Pro-Abortion and Communism.

Then is it safe to say,

Republican = Pro-Torture and Fascism?

Sadly, there isn't a third option. So the only option I can see is to reign in each with the other when they cross the line. And yes, each will cross the line.

My point Ferd is that you're very fast to call Democrats, and those like me who feel they've got a case, Communists and hardline socialists...but my question is...will you defend Republican atrocities? And how do you feel and/or react when you hear Republicans labeled a pro-torture fascists?