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[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I was going, and then Keith posted and made me respond.

Its ALL Keiths Fault!!!!!!


Bro Keith, I am glad I am not part of either group, because i am not to keen on either one right now.

In that we agree!

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Good job in finding the page link ... we had posted these domains about a week ago.

There you have it ladies and gentlemen .... a full-fledged clone of the UPCI ... but w/ more position offerings than you can ever imagine.

J. Godair is on cloud nine ... I can imagine as the new chairman. I wonder if K. Godair has yet to tell his church his plans ... as of about 2 weeks ago they were still in prayer seeking God's will about their departure.

TLC apparently doesn't want as much of the limelight as first suspected ... he's conformed w/ sitting on the General Council.

As predicted T. French will be the chief theologian and apologist for the new org.

Looking forward to Myles Young putting together a National Youth conference to rival NAYC. I wonder which radio and internet personalities will be featured on stage.

How do you get Chris Craft on board??? Get him on the same multiple committees Myles is on.

Is local church development supposed to Home Missions?

The "newest" list.

Who elected these people?????????

[embonpoint]

Originally Posted by revrandy

I think the reason they will alllow folks to stay in the UPC is that they don't want any UPC church coming in to town....and putting up shop...as it were...

Of course that has to be the reason. No honorable or peaceable intentions could be ascribed to this bunch. They are just operating out of fear and intimidation.
Their fears are actually funny when you realize that now that all the anti-revival, unethical rabble rousers are gone, all that is left in the UPCI is ethical ministers who want to reach a lost world. The current leadership of the UPCI, at all levels, is much more interested in reaching the lost than starting a church in a town to "compete" with an existing OP church that was ok last month. The stories of applications flooding the desks of official to go into towns where men have left are just examples of ministers looking to reach those who have never heard the gospel.

Right??

Right??........

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by keith4him

In that we agree!

I hope we are ok, as I can't go to bed until we are. I don't want to let the sun go down on your wrath. HAHAHAHA!!!

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by embonpoint

Of course that has to be the reason. No honorable or peaceable intentions could be ascribed to this bunch. They are just operating out of fear and intimidation.
Their fears are actually funny when you realize that now that all the anti-revival, unethical rabble rousers are gone, all that is left in the UPCI is ethical ministers who want to reach a lost world. The current leadership of the UPCI, at all levels, is much more interested in reaching the lost than starting a church in a town to "compete" with an existing OP church that was ok last month. The stories of applications flooding the desks of official to go into towns where men have left are just examples of ministers looking to reach those who have never heard the gospel.

Right??

Right??........

I like this post.

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by embonpoint

Of course that has to be the reason. No honorable or peaceable intentions could be ascribed to this bunch. They are just operating out of fear and intimidation.
Their fears are actually funny when you realize that now that all the anti-revival, unethical rabble rousers are gone, all that is left in the UPCI is ethical ministers who want to reach a lost world. The current leadership of the UPCI, at all levels, is much more interested in reaching the lost than starting a church in a town to "compete" with an existing OP church that was ok last month. The stories of applications flooding the desks of official to go into towns where men have left are just examples of ministers looking to reach those who have never heard the gospel.

Right??

Right??........

It will happen. Some of these men have keep honest men with burdens out of their cities. One of these on the list told me it would "be over his dead body", that I would start a church in his city. The population you ask???? 1 million . . . his church size you ask??? About 275. Help me with the logic . . . He is the only "oneness" church in that city.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Theophil

Who elected these people?????????

Self-appointed ... the General Council ... I'm sure is the tried and true "innovative" idea used to get folks on board .... Hey, come w/ us ... You'll be on the General Council.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by PastorD

It will happen. Some of these men have keep honest men with burdens out of their cities. One of these on the list told me it would "be over his dead body", that I would start a church in his city. The population you ask???? 1 million . . . his church size you ask??? About 275. Help me with the logic . . . He is the only "oneness" church in that city.

This happens on both the Con and Lib side of the spectrum. And its sad. But sadder still is the cities where there is not any apostolic church, yet some have 3 or more.

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I like this post.

Originally Posted by embonpoint

Of course that has to be the reason. No honorable or peaceable intentions could be ascribed to this bunch. They are just operating out of fear and intimidation.
Their fears are actually funny when you realize that now that all the anti-revival, unethical rabble rousers are gone, all that is left in the UPCI is ethical ministers who want to reach a lost world. The current leadership of the UPCI, at all levels, is much more interested in reaching the lost than starting a church in a town to "compete" with an existing OP church that was ok last month. The stories of applications flooding the desks of official to go into towns where men have left are just examples of ministers looking to reach those who have never heard the gospel.

Right??

Right??........

Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Who is arguing?? I am simply asking what is unethical about this group forming, even if they are forming a full fledged Org??

I can agree that is Craft did what he is reported doing he was not being ethical. But the question is, whas he doing it as an authority of the non functioning new Org, or was he doing it of his own account?

How 'bout this one...

Maybe no more unethical than a man in your church forming a little group of your people that agree with him more than you (pastor) and starting another church across the street from you, contacting and reaching into your congregation in order to increase the "new fellowship".

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

This happens on both the Con and Lib side of the spectrum. And its sad. But sadder still is the cities where there is not any apostolic church, yet some have 3 or more.

True.