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anapko · #**151** 10-27-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

Guy,

Would you agree that this article, with or without the resolution, empowers the DB to go on witch hunts? The term "under question" is EXTREMELY vague and the DB could meet and say OK... we are going to put all men who go out over resolution 4 under question. This would then preclude a licensed minister from preaching for them or them preaching for a UPC pastor. The ambiguity of the article is, in my opinion, dangerous.

BTW, I have seen a particular district use the article/bylaw to shut men out and move them on down the road.

DS and DBs are subject to collusion and corruption like any other political body!

The UPC can eliminate ALL minister's licenses, pastor and evangelist, and go to one and only one minister! Yeah, then all churches can set up big screen "monitors" in the churches and the one and only one minister can preach to everybody! He can have screens set up in mission fields, he can do crusades all by huge screen "monitors"! Oh wait that sounds too much like 1984 and Big Brother! Yikes...we're here!!!

FRINGE_NUTTER · #**152** 10-27-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

matt..the evangelist is cominig to preach the gospel...how is that working against another church???????

I don't get it either. Going into a town to preach the gospel for ANYONE should not be looked at as working against anybody's church. It's all about politics and territorial "rights". How people can even think like that is beyond the Ole Fringe_Nutter. I respect stmatthew but I cannot understand that kind of thinking.

anapko · #**153** 10-27-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

I don't get it either. Going into a town to preach the gospel for ANYONE should not be looked at as working against anybody's church. It's all about politics and territorial "rights". .... Anyone who knows UPC knows how it works. People in the community - Baptists, Methodists, you name it know this. You can see 10 Baptist churches in a town, but buddy, you better not see 2 UPC churches in the same town. OR, if there are two 9 times out of 10 they aren't fellowshipping. One is holy and one is not. I've seen it all my life. People I know laugh about this and all the back biting and bickering. It's a sad story but it's the story I hear.

You are so right. I went to a wedding and I was seated at the same table of the UPC minister who performed the ceremony. A Baptist minister came to the wedding and was talking to the UPC pastor. The question came up, what are your guidelines to church development in the area. The UPC pastor replied we can't have a UPC church within a 10 mile area of the pre-established church! And then we wonder why our apostolic churches aren't exploding with growth. Sad

FRINGE_NUTTER · #**154** 10-27-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by anapko81

You are so right. I went to a wedding and I was seated at the same table of the UPC minister who performed the ceremony. A Baptist minister came to the wedding and was talking to the UPC pastor. The question came up, what are your guidelines to church development in the area. The UPC pastor replied we can't have a UPC church within a 10 mile area of the pre-established church! And then we wonder why our apostolic churches aren't exploding with growth. Sad

I agree with you. I actually edited my post because The Fringe didn't want to sound too harsh but it was all truth anyway.

anapko · #**155** 10-27-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

I agree with you. I actually edited my post because The Fringe didn't want to sound too harsh but it was all truth anyway.

Nothing my friend is any sadder than establishing the, "Us Four And No More" rule. Like the football coach who had only two rules to follow: 1. The coach is always right. 2. If the coach is wrong, refer to rule # 1.

FRINGE_NUTTER · #**156** 10-27-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anapko81

Nothing my friend is any sadder than establishing the, "Us Four And No More" rule. Like the football coach who had only two rules to follow: 1. The coach is always right. 2. If the coach is wrong, refer to rule # 1.

Kind of like if it's a choice between the Coach's Manual or the Bible, refer to the Coach's Manual?

anapko · #**157** 10-27-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

Kind of like if it's a choice between the Coach's Manual or the Bible, refer to the Coach's Manual?

Correct Fringe!!! So in order to keep the masses, excuse me, the less than a hundred in most assemblies, in check we intimidate them with a DB visit enforcing the manuel, er, coaches rules!

FRINGE_NUTTER · #**158** 10-27-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I think this is a very sad statement. If a UPC guy came to preach for us, we would not be "working against" the local UPC churches. Why can't we all work together anyway?

P.S. No UPC guy has preached for us in a very LONG time. Even before Res. 3, it was not allowed. However, we have preached in some UPC churches recently.

Just now reading this thread backwards. Yes, it is a sad statement to say if a UPC guy came across town to preach it would be working against someone. That is the UPC mentality and it never does cease to amaze me. I know. I know. It exists in other groups but when it's spoken of, it is usually known as "the UPC mentality" ...."Hold the fort for someone else is coming."

delta soundman · #**159** 10-27-2007, 09:21 PM

Just got home from the healing and deliverence crusade minus the evangelist. Amazing how God takes a bad situation and makes something good of it. He does such a good job its almost like He made the bad situation. Thank you Lord for moving in the service tonight and blessing up with Your Spirit. Can't wait to see what you have in store for us tomorrow.

#**160** 10-27-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER

Just now reading this thread backwards. Yes, it is a sad statement to say if a UPC guy came across town to preach it would be working against someone. That is the UPC mentality and it never does cease to amaze me. I know. I know. It exists in other groups but when it's spoken of, it is usually known as "the UPC mentality" ...."Hold the fort for someone else is coming."

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