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Old 09-17-2007, 07:34 PM
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Tertullians comments so reek of homosexuality.He simply hated women and blamed them for mans fall.Sadly Adam did not stand up to his sin.That is what caused him the most trouble.He did not stand behind his choice nor
interceed on her behalf but played the blame game.Sad.
Jesus however the second Adam not only stood up for us on the cross but took
our blame upon himself.He is the ultimate man.The perfact man.Jesus is not
a responsibility dodger.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:36 PM
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You obviously have serious issues with women. Why are you so insecure in your manhood?
Oh my goodness..2 personal insults in a row. You realize I included a smiley face the last time? It was TIC.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:44 PM
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Yes WE wrestle with them, but sins come from WITHIN the man.

No your human spirit is not controlled by other spirits. You totally misunderstood the wrestling that Paul was speaking of. Man does not need a personal devil to make them do wrong stuff. All they need is a sin nature. Some men might be controlled by evil spirits but that does not mean ALL men are.

Man does not need a scape goat for doing wicked things. Man fell in the garden at the beginning and has been sinning every since with out a personal devil egging controlling him.

The heart of man devises wicked things'
Pro 6:18 A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

To blame it all on the devil is to deny that man has a sin nature and that man himself needs to redeemed. All God had to do was destroy the devil and mankind would be perfect.

I have a question for you, since you feel you are a spiritual superior, enough so that you can judge a man you don't even know...have you ever sinned...EVER... since coming to christ? Ever? Have you ever done anything carnal? If so, does that mean you were under control of a demon?

I have so far discussed what you have said and not said anything about you personally, have I? Up until now I just assume you were another believer that has an opinion...an opinion I think is wrong or misguided or at least not well balanced. Did you have to include the insult? Im waiting for your reply to see how our future exchanges go.
If you feel I attacked you, I certainly apologize. I have a tendancy to joke around and pick fun. I'll read your response carefully and post a reply. God bless.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:45 PM
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Folks, I am convinced we are dealing with some New Age Goddess Worship/Sacred Feminine influenced thinking here.
Some men get that way from having overly domineering mothers and then move on to an over domineering wife.

Im not sure but I think this is how some men end up gay?

Oh but what do I know? I've been labeled a spiritual idiot by our resident female expert
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:45 PM
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Tertullians comments so reek of homosexuality.He simply hated women and blamed them for mans fall.Sadly Adam did not stand up to his sin.That is what caused him the most trouble.He did not stand behind his choice nor
interceed on her behalf but played the blame game.Sad.
Jesus however the second Adam not only stood up for us on the cross but took
our blame upon himself.He is the ultimate man.The perfact man.Jesus is not
a responsibility dodger.
Good response, if he was homo; it may account for his remarks.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:46 PM
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If you feel I attacked you, I certainly apologize. I have a tendancy to joke around and pick fun. I'll read your response carefully and post a reply. God bless.
No I don't "feel" it. I didn't see any smiley. It was an ad hominem.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:49 PM
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Tertullians comments so reek of homosexuality.He simply hated women and blamed them for mans fall.Sadly Adam did not stand up to his sin.That is what caused him the most trouble.He did not stand behind his choice nor
interceed on her behalf but played the blame game.Sad.
Jesus however the second Adam not only stood up for us on the cross but took
our blame upon himself.He is the ultimate man.The perfact man.Jesus is not
a responsibility dodger.
Tertullian was a Montanist and as such they shunned all sexual relationships. They were in essence the first monks...it's interesting that this later became a stable for the RCC priesthood...

Of course Im only guessing since I don't possess much spiritual insight :-)

Although I have been known to spot a Devils Advocate from time to time
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:51 PM
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No I don't "feel" it. I didn't see any smiley. It was an ad hominem.
sorry...
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:54 PM
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Tertullians comments so reek of homosexuality.He simply hated women and blamed them for mans fall.Sadly Adam did not stand up to his sin.That is what caused him the most trouble.He did not stand behind his choice nor
interceed on her behalf but played the blame game.Sad.
Jesus however the second Adam not only stood up for us on the cross but took
our blame upon himself.He is the ultimate man.The perfact man.Jesus is not
a responsibility dodger.
That's exactly what I thought too! Has to be some kind of deepseated twistedness/perversion for men to think that way about women.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:55 PM
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Tertullian was a Montanist and as such they shunned all sexual relationships. They were in essence the first monks...it's interesting that this later became a stable for the RCC priesthood...
What?
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