How much stock do you put in prophecy?

[Coonskinner]

I am very saddened to read the accounts of those who have been so jaded by all the fluff and nonsense that passes for the gifts these days in some places.

I am so thankful that I have been acquainted with the real.

[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I am very saddened to read the accounts of those who have been so jaded by all the fluff and nonsense that passes for the gifts these days in some places.

I am so thankful that I have been acquainted with the real.

Don't even get me started on the REAL reason some of these people are invited to a church or set up shop in your neighbourhood.

It's all about the money....

I don't think ALL of these people who minister in prophecy are into it for the money but I haven't met one who wasn't either invited to get people to give to the cause de jour and/or told you that you had to show your faith by giving money before God could do His work.

I thinl they like to call it "planting a seed". To me it's almost like paying for someone to read your palm.

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

Don't even get me started on the REAL reason some of these people are invited to a church or set up shop in your neighbourhood.

It's all about the money....

I don't think ALL of these people who minister in prophecy are into it for the money but I haven't met one who wasn't either invited to get people to give to the cause de jour and/or told you that you had to show your faith by giving money before God could do His work.

I thinl they like to call it "planting a seed". To me it's almost like paying for someone to read your palm.

Almost sounds like you are speaking evil of a native son of the North country!

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by LaGirl

like i said.....depends on the person!

now, it doesn't take a prophet to see this!!!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I believe in prophecy...but I do not base my decisions on prophecy...I listen carefully, pray about it and generally wait for what my heart tells me to do. If it is of God things come to pass...I do not believe all missed prophecy is of the devil! There are many factors involved in prophecy.
I have seen people lose out with God running after so called prophets. There must be balance in everything.
Much of the Bible is prophecy...some things have come to pass oter things are future.
I believe in the gift of prophecy...but like anything else it has it's place.
I was associated with some "friends" that really wanted to take over the Brazil work...They gave us a prophecy...we did not do what the prophecy said for us to do because we felt it was from the wrong spirit and time has proven us right...
Be very careful when dealing with prophecy...God can speak and God does speak but He does not go against His written word, the Bible.
Not bragging, but I have been used in the gift of prophecy on certain occasions but I do not feel I am a prophetess. Once in a meeting without realizing what I was doing, I spoke and said, someone here will die tomorrow...we all fell in the alter...the next day a young man that was in the meeting fell dead at work.
I dreamed about a certain preacher and in the dream the Lord spoke to me about a sin in his life and unless he repented he would die...I went to him...he laughed but within weeks he was shot...His wife bent over the coffin crying keep saying over and over, OH! if you would have only listened to the missionary..."
The spirit of the prophet is subject. "Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting by, let the first be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged; and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. For God is not a God of confusion but of peace."(1 Corinthians 14:29-33a RSV)

I have no faith in "bathroom and parking lot" prophecies... but there is the Real thing...and we must have enough spirit of God to know the difference...and enough humbleness to harken to the voice of God but one thing for certain God does obey His ORDER set up in HIS word...

Not sure what you are implying here? Do you think God is limited where He can work? Knowing you as I think I do, I would be surprised. Therefore, that is why I am asking for a clarification on what you meant here.)

Originally Posted by samp

I said that because I believe the gift of prophecy is not available to any Christians outside of the Christians in the New Testament. The numerous failed prophecies I have witnessed from today's self-proclaimed prophets strengthens that belief. I simply do not buy the excuse that the prophecies failed to come to pass because someone lacked faith, because someone failed to fulfil their part of the prophecy, or any of the other excuses prophets come up with when their prophecies fail. I have had many wonderful and flattering prophecies given to me that my fleshly nature would love to embrace, but I have chosen to reject those prophesies in favor of a Christian faith that relies solely on the written, infallable word of God for guidance.

What scripture to you use to back up that statement?

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I no longer believe in prophecy. Prophecy preachers burned me out on that a long time ago.

That is sad to say. But I know there are people who don't believe in doctors either because of bad experiences. Doesn't mean every doctor is a quack, no more than every prophecy is a quack.

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

I believe in the gift of prophecy but I am very skeptical about how it's done today.

There is an office of Prophet which seems to be filled with many pretenders. There seems to be the prophecy circus that comes to town every so often that gets some people excited and into the building but doesn't seem to have any lasting effect when it leaves. In my own experience most personal prophecies are very vague and really could mean anything. Also, I've never heard anyone I know personally have a prophecy come true.

I've been at meetings where many things were promised as the "prophecy guy" was scheduled to speak to get people hyped up. People were prayed for but there were no healings; people were called out but there were nothing substantial. Of course, the excuse was that people's faith was low.

One other thing I noticed was that the prophecies were given mostly to the ministry. of course, they are the ones that invite people back.

If you think I've been disappointed and disallusioned by these meetings you are correct.

I've had more direction and God's will shown in my life by my brothers and sisters ministering daily than by the "prophet" coming to town. In those cases there was alot less hype and alot more ministry and substantial results.

I have been to these meetings and seem people healed as I have been also.
Sometimes I guess we see what we want to see.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I am very saddened to read the accounts of those who have been so jaded by all the fluff and nonsense that passes for the gifts these days in some places.

I am so thankful that I have been acquainted with the real.

Here to!

It is very sad to see folks lose faith in all the gifts that God has blessed the church with.

Reminds me of the word DECEPTION, many deceived in many ways.

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I am very saddened to read the accounts of those who have been so jaded by all the fluff and nonsense that passes for the gifts these days in some places.

I am so thankful that I have been acquainted with the real.

You are so right, brother.... I have had the displeasure of seeing the fakes out there. I remember being a service where a brother told my father in law that he was going to get an "important" phone call this week and it was supposed to have something to do with 10,000.00 dollars. I had to drop my head to hide my laughter because my inlaws were the only people in the church at that time with out a phone. I saw the big collections afterward and how people are just on the edge of their seats just hoping something will be said to the "from God". That kinda of stuff really made me sick...
HOWEVER:
With the crazies out there like that, THE REAL POWER OF GOD IS STILL WORKING. I have seen men of God speak to people and he was just reading their mail. we were in service one night a the evangelist was just preaching away when he turned to my husband and I and totally out of context with his message, began to say " when the doctors say it is impossible, just look at the baby right there in your arms...." The next day we got a phone call about the test that were taken the child I was carrying at the time and it was not good. We'd seen it before and experienced death. We called or pastor---prayer was made----and the doctors called us back and said they made a mistake...they didn't read the reports right! No, they didn't make a mistake, God turned the situation around.....! I have had men of God say things to me, that I know noone else knew because I don't talk to people about my problems. I remember on minister told my husband something about me and it bothered me for years, but I knew he was right.....Years later a different man of God came by and confirmed that and spoke to me! It was exactly what I had been praying about. God's power is still working among the fakes and phonies... GOD is still talking to HIS people. I don't care how many false prophets come by, I know the real God and I know His voice....... Truth will always prevail....Why would you get soo disheartened by the fake that you give up on God?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

You are so right, brother.... I have had the displeasure of seeing the fakes out there. I remember being a service where a brother told my father in law that he was going to get an "important" phone call this week and it was supposed to have something to do with 10,000.00 dollars. I had to drop my head to hide my laughter because my inlaws were the only people in the church at that time with out a phone. I saw the big collections afterward and how people are just on the edge of their seats just hoping something will be said to the "from God". That kinda of stuff really made me sick...
HOWEVER:
With the crazies out there like that, THE REAL POWER OF GOD IS STILL WORKING. I have seen men of God speak to people and he was just reading their mail. we were in service one night a the evangelist was just preaching away when he turned to my husband and I and totally out of context with his message, began to say " when the doctors say it is impossible, just look at the baby right there in your arms...." The next day we got a phone call about the test that were taken the child I was carrying at the time and it was not good. We'd seen it before and experienced death. We called or pastor---prayer was made----and the doctors called us back and said they made a mistake...they didn't read the reports right! No, they didn't make a mistake, God turned the situation around.....! I have had men of God say things to me, that I know noone else knew because I don't talk to people about my problems. I remember on minister told my husband something about me and it bothered me for years, but I knew he was right.....Years later a different man of God came by and confirmed that and spoke to me! It was exactly what I had been praying about. God's power is still working among the fakes and phonies... GOD is still talking to HIS people. I don't care how many false prophets come by, I know the real God and I know His voice....... Truth will always prevail....Why would you get soo disheartened by the fake that you give up on God?

Good post!

[Coonskinner]

There has to be a real before there can ever be a counterfeit.

[MrsMcD]

I received prophecy yesterday and I know that God spoke through the evangelist because the evangelist did not know me. He had only sat beside me at a restaurant the night before. We didn’t talk about anything personal that would give him any ammunition to say anything to me. He did tell me the night before that he had a word from God for me. God gave it to him while he was sitting beside me. I know the prophecy came from God because what was said to me by this evangelist, only God knew how I felt and what I was thinking. Never had I said anything to anybody.

I am thankful that God cares enough about me to speak to me. I am also thankful that there are men of God willing to listen and obey him.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

There has to be a real before there can ever be a counterfeit.

I agree!

Although many operate in the flesh and blame the Holy Spirit of our God, this in no way negates the reality of the voice of God speaking prophetically through a submitted vessel!

SPEAK LORD, Thy servant heareth!