Covenant Apostolic Congrgations Intl

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I'm just about done with it all.
Thank you all for supporting me through it.

We all got to stick together.

[Amanah]

For the record, while I love the people of CACI, I disagree with them on the following points:

* CACI does not believe tongues are the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost. They believe any spiritual gift can be initial evidence.

* CACI believes a form of light doctrine where those who hold CACI beliefs will be immortals on the renewed earth. And others may inhabit the new earth as mortal citizens who will be kept alive through a ministry related to Rev 22:2 where the leaves of the tree heal the nations.

* CACI follows the teaching of Ignatius of Antioch as to church organizational structure and communion as described below:

*Organization Structure*
1. Apostolic Succession: Ignatius emphasized bishops being direct spiritual successors to the apostles.
2. Episcopal Polity: Ignatius advocated for a hierarchical structure, with bishops overseeing local churches.
3. Bishop's Role: Bishops provided spiritual guidance, doctrine and sacraments.
4. Presbyters (Elders): Assisted bishops in governance and ministry.
5. Deacons: Managed practical affairs and served the community.

*Communion Beliefs*
Eucharist for Remission of Sins: Ignatius implied that communion offered forgiveness of sins.

*Key Quotes*
1. "Partake of one Eucharist, for one is the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one the cup for unity in his blood" (Epistle to the Philadelphians, 4).
2. "Let no man deceive himself, by abstaining from the common sacrifice, and from the spiritual food, which is the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ" (Epistle to the Ephesians, 20:2).
3."They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death." (Epistle to the Ephesians 20:2)

*Sources*
1. "The Epistles of Ignatius" (Ante-Nicene Fathers).
2. "The Apostolic Fathers" (Lightfoot and Harmer).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

For the record, while I love the people of CACI, I disagree with them on the following points:

* CACI does not believe tongues are the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost. They believe any spiritual gift can be initial evidence.

* CACI believes a form of light doctrine where those who hold CACI beliefs will be immortals on the renewed earth. And others may inhabit the new earth as mortal citizens who will be kept alive through a ministry related to Rev 22:2 where the leaves of the tree heal the nations.

* CACI follows the teaching of Ignatius of Antioch as to church organizational structure and communion as described below:

*Organization Structure*
1. Apostolic Succession: Ignatius emphasized bishops being direct spiritual successors to the apostles.
2. Episcopal Polity: Ignatius advocated for a hierarchical structure, with bishops overseeing local churches.
3. Bishop's Role: Bishops provided spiritual guidance, doctrine and sacraments.
4. Presbyters (Elders): Assisted bishops in governance and ministry.
5. Deacons: Managed practical affairs and served the community.

*Communion Beliefs*
Eucharist for Remission of Sins: Ignatius implied that communion offered forgiveness of sins.

*Key Quotes*
1. "Partake of one Eucharist, for one is the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one the cup for unity in his blood" (Epistle to the Philadelphians, 4).
2. "Let no man deceive himself, by abstaining from the common sacrifice, and from the spiritual food, which is the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ" (Epistle to the Ephesians, 20:2).
3."They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death." (Epistle to the Ephesians 20:2)

*Sources*
1. "The Epistles of Ignatius" (Ante-Nicene Fathers).
2. "The Apostolic Fathers" (Lightfoot and Harmer).

Brother Jesse believes in the “one cup” teaching?
What I’m asking is, does his group believe in communion from one cup of wine passed around the congregation. Where each member drinks from the same cup?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother Jesse believes in the “one cup” teaching?
What I’m asking is, does his group believe in communion from one cup of wine passed around the congregation. Where each member drinks from the same cup?

The cup of (wine diluted with grape juice) sits on a table next to a loaf of challah bread broken into pieces. The congregation takes a piece of bread, dips it into the cup, then eats it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The cup of (wine diluted with grape juice) sits on a table next to a loaf of challah bread broken into pieces. The congregation takes a piece of bread, dips it into the cup, then eats it.

You know way back in the day Brother Jesse and Brother Dan Booth were with an organization that taught the “one cup” teaching. They weren’t Sabbath Keepers, but they were hardcore on the “one cup.” They didn’t like me for some reason. Brother Booth asked me to go to one of their meetings. So, I went out of respect for his request. I do remember they also didn’t believe in the “initial evidence” of the Holy Ghost to be tongues.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You know way back in the day Brother Jesse and Brother Dan Booth were with an organization that taught the “one cup” teaching. They weren’t Sabbath Keepers, but they were hardcore on the “one cup.” They didn’t like me for some reason. Brother Booth asked me to go to one of their meetings. So, I went out of respect for his request. I do remember they also didn’t believe in the “initial evidence” of the Holy Ghost to be tongues.

Brother Jesse is in Mobile AL. True Vine fellowship where I've been attending is 30 minutes north of Sebastian in Palm Bay. Until I watched his latest foundations videos, I had no idea what Bro Jesse taught about initial evidence, among other things. I had never heard my Elder teach on it. And imagine my surprise to learn that according to CACI the UPCI would be among those 2nd tier citizens on the renewed earth.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Brother Jesse is in Mobile AL. True Vine fellowship where I've been attending is 30 minutes north of Sebastian in Palm Bay. Until I watched his latest foundations videos, I had no idea what Bro Jesse taught about initial evidence, among other things. I had never heard my Elder teach on it. And imagine my surprise to learn that according to CACI the UPCI would be among those 2nd tier citizens on the renewed earth.

GeeHaw Witnesses believe in 2nd Tier citizenry on renewed earth. The 144,000 who witnessed WWI are the originals who claim heaven. While the rest of the JWs get to feed apples to tigers on a renewed earth.