I have Left the UPC Church

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Naahhh...I think this was fits my new image a little better

[CC1]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Mich,

Please hear me when I say this. Make sure that your husband and you go to the same church. My wife and I are not attending the same church. She is going to the one she was raised in. I and other were burned by that church so I have been attending another one. I refuse to go back to the other one. But my wife is not following me either and it has put a real, real tough strain on our marriage. By the grace of God we are still doing ok, but it takes so much more work than it should. Please make sure that it is a decision made by both of you!

I am sorry your wife is not attending the same church as you. In my opinion that is wrong on her part and one of the things that gripes me about some OTP pastors. Men who ordinarily would never allow a woman to boss a man around or usurp his authority will support women in this area if it means they keep them under their control and influence.

Unless you are going to a church that does not preach truth your wife's pastor should urge her to keep unity in the family and join you.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by CC1

I am sorry your wife is not attending the same church as you. In my opinion that is wrong on her part and one of the things that gripes me about some OTP pastors. Men who ordinarily would never allow a woman to boss a man around or usurp his authority will support women in this area if it means they keep them under their control and influence.

Unless you are going to a church that does not preach truth your wife's pastor should urge her to keep unity in the family and join you.

If he's not going to a conservative Apostolic church, I bet the pastor probably believes his church is "not preaching truth", don't ya think?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Right now I am kind of in Limbo. My husband and I are having church in our Home (which means he is actually going to church, which is a bonus )

I have made no decision whether or not I will look for another church, try to find a home church, or just gather with other believers as the Lord has not given me my next step at this point.

God will direct you, Mich...keep believeing that...

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Michlow

If he's not going to a conservative Apostolic church, I bet the pastor probably believes his church is "not preaching truth", don't ya think?

It is worse than that. Some old time Pentecostal preachers think that THEY are the only ones preaching "all truth" even within old time Oneness Pentecostalism.

There are some who would NEVER feel under any circumstances that it would be the will of God or right for a saint to attend another church.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by CC1

It is worse than that. Some old time Pentecostal preachers think that THEY are the only ones preaching "all truth" even within old time Oneness Pentecostalism.

There are some who would NEVER feel under any circumstances that it would be the will of God or right for a saint to attend another church.

yeah, my first church was pastored by that type...

[ChTatum]

Just a few more days, sister.........


Rev. 22:17 (KJV)
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.





J/K!

[CC1]

Michlow,

Did you ever decide what route you are taking on your trip? I was hoping you might get to visit CC and we could meet you.

Of course now I guess you would be visiting the Universalist church in town.....LOL!!

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by CC1

Michlow,

Did you ever decide what route you are taking on your trip? I was hoping you might get to visit CC and we could meet you.

Of course now I guess you would be visiting the Universalist church in town.....LOL!!

Michlow,
If you go to Nashville, STAY AWAY FROM A ROAD CALLED OLD HICKORY!

It is the closest thing to eternal punishment I have seen on earth.

[Coffee99]

Originally Posted by Michlow

As much as I love to be called mature....

I have openly acknowledged many a time, that I have issues with the ministry, and that I do not accept any spiritual authority over me, except Jesus, and that I have issues with the elevation of the ministry, and the great gulf dividing ministry and laity in the UPC.

To be honest though, a big part of the reason that I do not accept spiritual authority, is that It has been great misused in my experience. My last Pastor was a pretty healthy leader, but by the time I arrived at that church, I had already been burned too many times to accept his authority.



Bro. C, you don't need to worry about us disagreeing causing conflict. In fact, I had just remarked to a mutual friend that based on your absense, you didn't like me now that I was "liberal"

I respect you, and I value your opinion, and I covet your prayers.

Michow,

As stated earlier, study your Bible with an honest, open heart and in prayer. However, at some point, you will need to find a minister that you can trust enough to discuss your questions and your path. There are some incredible ministers out there. You need to know what you believe through your own study. But there will be a time that you need a minister that you trust and will allow you to go through your questions, your doubts, and your "conclusions" and who will respond with intelligence, knowledge, love and through the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

You will have the hardest part. You will have to give that trust, and you will have to accept that in ANY organization, group, workplace, gathering of friends, etc., there is always a leader. Otherwise, it's all mass chaos. Pray that God directs you to the place where you can find that minister that you respect, trust, and can follow.