Is a marriage license a scam?

[Esaias]

Where in the Bible do ministers or elders have anything to do with marriages?

Or funerals, for that matter?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Where in the Bible do ministers or elders have anything to do with marriages?

Or funerals, for that matter?

We only see Jesus attending a wedding. Didn't ancient Jewish custom often have a rabbi bless the couple?

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Where in the Bible do ministers or elders have anything to do with marriages?

Or funerals, for that matter?

In truth, this is but a tradition, and not written in Scripture. Rabbis did a blessing of the couple under Judaism, and this did carry over. However, where this is not in Scripture, marriage between one man and one woman is under the New Covenant.

IMHO, government should get out of the marriage business. I use the terminology that marriage is an ordinance of the Church, a sacred covenant held through Scripture, and government has no right to tax or mandate what is the biblical authority of Scripture. I'm just saying.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

In truth, this is but a tradition, and not written in Scripture. Rabbis did a blessing of the couple under Judaism, and this did carry over. However, where this is not in Scripture, marriage between one man and one woman is under the New Covenant.

IMHO, government should get out of the marriage business. I use the terminology that marriage is an ordinance of the Church, a sacred covenant held through Scripture, and government has no right to tax or mandate what is the biblical authority of Scripture. I'm just saying.

Wouldn't that imply that people outside of the church's authority are not "married"?

Marriage is a social construct between families. It doesn't belong to government... or the church.

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Wouldn't that imply that people outside of the church's authority are not "married"?

Marriage is a social construct between families. It doesn't belong to government... or the church.

Sorry, but marriage is an ordinance of the Church. Ordained and blessed of God. To say otherwise is to degrade the sacredness of the covenant. It may be a foundation of the social construct, but the covenant itself is ordained and blessed by God through the Scriptures.

Does this imply that those outside the church are not married? Since marriage was ordained by God in creation, the very act is sacred. They are married, however, the blessing of the covenant is always accompanied by the blessing of salvation. As Christ loves the Church, so ought a man love his wife.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Sorry, but marriage is an ordinance of the Church. Ordained and blessed of God. To say otherwise is to degrade the sacredness of the covenant. It may be a foundation of the social construct, but the covenant itself is ordained and blessed by God through the Scriptures.

Does this imply that those outside the church are not married? Since marriage was ordained by God in creation, the very act is sacred. They are married, however, the blessing of the covenant is always accompanied by the blessing of salvation. As Christ loves the Church, so ought a man love his wife.

Ah, I see what you're saying.

[Aquila]

I recently heard of this idea and practice being called, "Sovereign Christian Marriage".

[Rudy]

I wonder if we would re-bell on getting a permit to date? Saying enough!!!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Rudy

I wonder if we would re-bell on getting a permit to date? Saying enough!!!

lol

[Scott Pitta]

Please continue to fill out those documents at the courthouse. Those researchers who will sift through the paperwork while writing biographies need them !!!! They are full of useful data for geeks like me.

Harry Morse performed lots of marriages for young Pentecostal ministers and missionaries. I just found one last night. Charles Storey and Mattie Hammond from 1919.