Wikileaks: HRC's Flip Flop on TPP

[deacon blues]

She publicly stated she was in favor of this Trans Pacific Partnership 45 times until it became politically expedient to flip flop on it:

Inside the latest batch of Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s hacked emails by WikiLeaks is a stunning story of how the Democratic presidential nominee’s campaign staff forced her through the uncomfortable process of flip-flopping against the Trans Pacific Partnership.
In the emails is a bald admission from several campaign staffers that the Democratic presidential nominee flip-flopped on the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP).

That admission is coupled with the revelation of how exactly—over a months-long period—her campaign staff helped her maneuver through her position change on the explosive issue. And all of that is mixed together with the admission in writing in these emails by her campaign manager Robby Mook that Hillary Clinton would not be “comfortable” coming out against TPP during the campaign, even though she had to do it for votes. These emails indicate just how seriously her team of political operatives took the issue—and how they viewed it, as Mook said in one email, as an “annoying” issue in terms of timing—in terms of not infuriating labor unions, which by and large oppose such trade deals. Clinton has had a rocky relationship with Big Labor, as other emails have shown her campaign staff’s frustration with union bosses like the AFL-CIO’s Richard Trumka.
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[n david]

Funny how the NY Times is bashed for "leaking" old Trump tax info, but Trump supporters love Wikileaks....which illegally hacks private accounts and illegally releases private information.

Right, it's okay because Wikileaks isn't exposing Trump.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by n david

Funny how the NY Times is bashed for "leaking" old Trump tax info, but Trump supporters love Wikileaks....which illegally hacks private accounts and illegally releases private information.

Right, it's okay because Wikileaks isn't exposing Trump.

Since the entire MSM gives a disproportionate amount of time focused on what Trump said eleven years ago and accusations from the past and glosses over Hillary's glaring web of corruption and serial lying, Wikleaks is providing some welcomed levity to a very unbalanced reporting of the facts.

The 1995 tax return isn't even worthy of news. What's the bombshell here? Trump claimed a huge loss, therefore MAY have not paid income tax for years? Whatever. All hypocrisy. NO ONE pays more taxes than they legally are obliged to, so it's nothing. I'm paying an additional $1,700 this week after already paying $20,000. I'm not rich. Not by any stretch. It doesn't bother me in the slightest Trump didn't pay any income tax in 1995, nor does it phase me if he hasn't paid any for decades. Kudos to him if he found ways to keep his own money.

[n david]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Since the entire MSM gives a disproportionate amount of time focused on what Trump said eleven years ago and accusations from the past and glosses over Hillary's glaring web of corruption and serial lying, Wikleaks is providing some welcomed levity to a very unbalanced reporting of the facts.

The 1995 tax return isn't even worthy of news. What's the bombshell here? Trump claimed a huge loss, therefore MAY have not paid income tax for years? Whatever. All hypocrisy. NO ONE pays more taxes than they legally are obliged to, so it's nothing. I'm paying an additional $1,700 this week after already paying $20,000. I'm not rich. Not by any stretch. It doesn't bother me in the slightest Trump didn't pay any income tax in 1995, nor does it phase me if he hasn't paid any for decades. Kudos to him if he found ways to keep his own money.

Exactly, there was no bombshell. It was old news and yet Trump supporters were angry, claiming the NY Times broke the law and illegally leaked info. The claim was even made here. But Trump supporters are lapping up whatever Wikileaks posts.

I guarantee you, you and every other Trump supporter would be screaming if these leaks were about Trump.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by n david

Exactly, there was no bombshell. It was old news and yet Trump supporters were angry, claiming the NY Times broke the law and illegally leaked info. The claim was even made here. But Trump supporters are lapping up whatever Wikileaks posts.

I guarantee you, you and every other Trump supporter would be screaming if these leaks were about Trump.

The difference is Wikileaks is doing the job that our "impartial" press should be doing. This system is so rigged against the GOP and conservatism I'm okay with Wikileaks and what they're exposing.

[n david]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

The difference is Wikileaks is doing the job that our "impartial" press should be doing. This system is so rigged against the GOP and conservatism I'm okay with Wikileaks and what they're exposing.

Riiiiight.

You're okay with illegal leaks. Let's revisit this should anything be leaked illegally against Trump. Again, I would bet the bank your tune will quickly change should Wikileaks or any news org leak private info on Trump.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

It should never be illegal to expose the truth.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by n david

Riiiiight.

You're okay with illegal leaks. Let's revisit this should anything be leaked illegally against Trump. Again, I would bet the bank your tune will quickly change should Wikileaks or any news org leak private info on Trump.

I never once complained about the 1995 tax returns. Bring it on. There should be transparency on both sides. Except every election cycle we don't get balanced investigative reporting. The MSM is the propaganda arm of the Dem Party. If the president, Hillary, or anyone else for that matter is hiding info, lying to the Ameican public, engaged in vast corruption---shine the light of the truth on it. I don't care how it is procured.

If they have the goods on Trump---bring it on. All they have are words and accusations. Wikileaks is continuing to expose the web of lies that people in POWER that want MORE POWER are a part of. The stubbornness of people like you who refuse to see that HRC and her good ole boy and girl network has already done grave damage to our country and will 100% continue the trend and should be stopped---even if that means a Trump presidency is frustrating. Trump is minor leagues compared to these professional politicians. You draw equivalency. Unfortunately there are enough of you it will cost us the election.

There were people like you in 2008 and 2012 who refused to support the GOP nominee and we ended up with two terms of Obama. Y'all shrug it off like no big deal but there is no way a McCain presidency or Romney presidency would've been as abysmal as this one has been.

Y'all vote emotionally and with short sightedness. You vote because your candidate was defeated in the primaries. You understand neither history nor current events. When the consequences of your voting patterns come to fruition, it's lost on you how we arrived at this juncture.

No Obama Presidency would've:

1. Meant a better economy
2. Less people on govt assistance
3. More stability in the Middle East
4. Benghazi wouldn't have happened
5. Obamacare wouldn't have happened
6. More people working
7. Racial divisions wouldn't be fomented when police killings occurred
8. North Carolina schools wouldn't be threatened with defunding for laws against LGBTQ restroom policies
9. Two SCOTUS seats wouldn't be filled with über liberal justices
10. Chemical weapons wouldn't have been employed in Syria
11. Russia wouldn't be back in the Middle East for the first time since the 1970s
12. A foreign policy of "leading from behind" would never have happened---the phrase "leading from behind" wouldn't have existed
13. Religious liberties would be more secure
14. The national debt wouldn't be nearly $20,000,000,000,000
15. Taxes wouldn't be so high

The list could go on and on talking about the judiciary, the state and health of our military, crime statistics, etc.

Are we better off than we were eight years ago? Absolutely not!

Elections have consequences.

So go ahead and be happy that DT loses and Hillary wins. The consequences will sail right past your thick head and you'll pat yourself on the back for helping in some small way to defeat him.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I never once complained about the 1995 tax returns. Bring it on. There should be transparency on both sides. Except every election cycle we don't get balanced investigative reporting. The MSM is the propaganda arm of the Dem Party. If the president, Hillary, or anyone else for that matter is hiding info, lying to the Ameican public, engaged in vast corruption---shine the light of the truth on it. I don't care how it is procured.

If they have the goods on Trump---bring it on. All they have are words and accusations. Wikileaks is continuing to expose the web of lies that people in POWER that want MORE POWER are a part of. The stubbornness of people like you who refuse to see that HRC and her good ole boy and girl network has already done grave damage to our country and will 100% continue the trend and should be stopped---even if that means a Trump presidency is frustrating. Trump is minor leagues compared to these professional politicians. You draw equivalency. Unfortunately there are enough of you it will cost us the election.

There were people like you in 2008 and 2012 who refused to support the GOP nominee and we ended up with two terms of Obama. Y'all shrug it off like no big deal but there is no way a McCain presidency or Romney presidency would've been as abysmal as this one has been.

Y'all vote emotionally and with short sightedness. You vote because your candidate was defeated in the primaries. You understand neither history nor current events. When the consequences of your voting patterns come to fruition, it's lost on you how we arrived at this juncture.

No Obama Presidency would've:

1. Meant a better economy
2. Less people on govt assistance
3. More stability in the Middle East
4. Benghazi wouldn't have happened
5. Obamacare wouldn't have happened
6. More people working
7. Racial divisions wouldn't be fomented when police killings occurred
8. North Carolina schools wouldn't be threatened with defunding for laws against LGBTQ restroom policies
9. Two SCOTUS seats wouldn't be filled with über liberal justices
10. Chemical weapons wouldn't have been employed in Syria
11. Russia wouldn't be back in the Middle East for the first time since the 1970s
12. A foreign policy of "leading from behind" would never have happened---the phrase "leading from behind" wouldn't have existed
13. Religious liberties would be more secure
14. The national debt wouldn't be nearly $20,000,000,000,000
15. Taxes wouldn't be so high

The list could go on and on talking about the judiciary, the state and health of our military, crime statistics, etc.

Are we better off than we were eight years ago? Absolutely not!

Elections have consequences.

So go ahead and be happy that DT loses and Hillary wins. The consequences will sail right past your thick head and you'll pat yourself on the back for helping in some small way to defeat him.

[n david]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I never once complained about the 1995 tax returns. Bring it on. There should be transparency on both sides. Except every election cycle we don't get balanced investigative reporting. The MSM is the propaganda arm of the Dem Party. If the president, Hillary, or anyone else for that matter is hiding info, lying to the Ameican public, engaged in vast corruption---shine the light of the truth on it. I don't care how it is procured.

Oh please. If the media leaked info on Trump, especially illegally obtained info, you would be screaming about how unfair the media is, just as you already are now.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

If they have the goods on Trump---bring it on. All they have are words and accusations. Wikileaks is continuing to expose the web of lies that people in POWER that want MORE POWER are a part of. The stubbornness of people like you who refuse to see that HRC and her good ole boy and girl network has already done grave damage to our country and will 100% continue the trend and should be stopped---even if that means a Trump presidency is frustrating. Trump is minor leagues compared to these professional politicians. You draw equivalency. Unfortunately there are enough of you it will cost us the election.

Get this straight -- #NeverTrump will not cost you the election; having a weak and awful candidate is what's going to cost the election. Don't blame #NeverTrump for Trump being a sexist, misogynistic, racist and lying candidate.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

There were people like you in 2008 and 2012 who refused to support the GOP nominee and we ended up with two terms of Obama. Y'all shrug it off like no big deal but there is no way a McCain presidency or Romney presidency would've been as abysmal as this one has been.

I voted for McCain and Romney.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Y'all vote emotionally and with short sightedness. You vote because your candidate was defeated in the primaries. You understand neither history nor current events. When the consequences of your voting patterns come to fruition, it's lost on you how we arrived at this juncture.

HA! Trumpsters are entirely emotion-based voters. You hear "wall" and "deportation" and feel a tingle down your leg. Again, Trump is the reason he will lose. He has himself - and ONLY himself - to blame for losing the election.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

No Obama Presidency would've:

1. Meant a better economy
2. Less people on govt assistance
3. More stability in the Middle East
4. Benghazi wouldn't have happened
5. Obamacare wouldn't have happened
6. More people working
7. Racial divisions wouldn't be fomented when police killings occurred
8. North Carolina schools wouldn't be threatened with defunding for laws against LGBTQ restroom policies
9. Two SCOTUS seats wouldn't be filled with über liberal justices
10. Chemical weapons wouldn't have been employed in Syria
11. Russia wouldn't be back in the Middle East for the first time since the 1970s
12. A foreign policy of "leading from behind" would never have happened---the phrase "leading from behind" wouldn't have existed
13. Religious liberties would be more secure
14. The national debt wouldn't be nearly $20,000,000,000,000
15. Taxes wouldn't be so high

The list could go on and on talking about the judiciary, the state and health of our military, crime statistics, etc.

No, instead with McCain, and likely Romney, we'd be in more armed conflict and war with Syria, Iran, Russia and the whole of the middle east. McCain is a war monger who would have sent the US into a nuclear war with Russia. With exception of obamacare and SCOTUS Justices, a lot of those things are wishful thinking.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Are we better off than we were eight years ago? Absolutely not!

Elections have consequences.

So go ahead and be happy that DT loses and Hillary wins. The consequences will sail right past your thick head and you'll pat yourself on the back for helping in some small way to defeat him.

The only ones with thick heads are Trump supporters who can't figure out that their candidate is the reason they will lose this election. Period.