Question about Acts 2:38: What about the martyrs?

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but still, a prevarication--of sorts--so, come on

"I can tell if someone is lost or saved by ________." ?

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and then recognize, as you avoid a serious answer to this question, or try to formulate one, the implications. Witness.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I can tell if someone is lost by how much of a pest they are.

i like this answer--even while hating it--because it is essentially true for you, with all of the implications. This is how you justify "All Muslims Are Lost."

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Ask your pastor. Don't ask that here.

Oh yes, by all means don't dig and seek the LORD for an answer. After all, you'd be usurping authority away from your pastor in doing so because after all, he alone is the voice of God in our lives. And also, what if God told you something your pastor did not agree with? We can't let the Holy Ghost have that kind of liberty in our lives. The Spirit needs to learn to submit to the pastor just like the rest of us!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i like this answer--even while hating it--because it is essentially true for you, with all of the implications. This is how you justify "All Muslims Are Lost."

I justify all Muslims are lost because they don't believe that Jesus is God, they don't believe the Gospel. Again, this has nothing to do with opium fields, BP oil, or Zionism. Go to a Presbyterian forum and post your dead baby pictures there.

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Is it not ridiculous that this terribly derailed thread has gone on for 66 pages? Goodness.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Servant's <3

Is it not ridiculous that this terribly derailed thread has gone on for 66 pages? Goodness.

It is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Originalist

Oh yes, by all means don't dig and seek the LORD for an answer. After all, you'd be usurping authority away from your pastor in doing so because after all, he alone is the voice of God in our lives. And also, what if God told you something your pastor did not agree with? We can't let the Holy Ghost have that kind of liberty in our lives. The Spirit needs to learn to submit to the pastor just like the rest of us!!

exactly

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I justify all Muslims are lost because they don't believe that Jesus is God, they don't believe the Gospel. Again, this has nothing to do with opium fields, BP oil, or Zionism. Go to a Presbyterian forum and post your dead baby pictures there.

thanks, but i think i prefer to continue ignoring your orders, with all due respect. You have already shown that your methods of determining Saved or Lost are completely subjective, and therefore what you are in fact justifying is a certain behavior, that really has nothing to do with anyone else's salvational state. This has everything to do with justifying your leader's actions, as well as the thread title.

I can outline the progression for you; it really is simple. Your behavior as a Christian should not be incumbent upon others' actions; "Love your enemies." This recognizes that no one can do you any harm that God does not allow. If every, single Muslim professed to be a cannibal, and specifically sought white, European flesh to dine on, still this should not alter your belief; if you trust in God. But being as how that does not suit satan, Muslims are portrayed to you as your enemies, to be feared--they are "All lost."

So, this is how you ignore the Good Samaritan, and "Judge not..." and "Love your enemies," all the central parts of Scripture, basically, so that your fears may rule you. Getting "saved" is then reduced to a little speech down front, and you go through all those endless contortions on faith v works, with the endless lawyerly discussions on how to do it right, and how your good deeds don't matter, even though Scripture is replete with passages--i could fill the rest of this page with them--that indicate that you do not represent that correctly, either.

So i must ask you again--you, who are so good at giving orders--why you don't just answer my really very basic questions? Where are your peers, that joined you in calling me names, "lost" just being one of the nicer ones? Is the truth really so unpalatable?