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Old 05-10-2013, 03:41 PM
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Delusional Al Gore Still Sounding the Alarm

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Yesterday, for the first time in human history, concentrations of carbon dioxide, the primary global warming pollutant, hit 400 parts per million in our planet's atmosphere. This number is a reminder that for the last 150 years -- and especially over the last several decades -- we have been recklessly polluting the protective sheath of atmosphere that surrounds the Earth and protects the conditions that have fostered the flourishing of our civilization. We are altering the composition of our atmosphere at an unprecedented rate. Indeed, every single day we pour an additional 90 million tons of global warming pollution into the sky as if it were an open sewer. As the distinguished climate scientist Jim Hansen has calculated, the accumulated manmade global warming pollution in the atmosphere now traps enough extra heat energy each day to equal the energy that would be released by 400,000 Hiroshima-scale atomic bombs exploding every single day. It's a big planet -- but that is a LOT of energy. And it is having a destructive effect.

Now, more than ever before, we are reaping the consequences of our recklessness. From Superstorm Sandy, which crippled New York City and large areas of New Jersey, to a drought that parched more than half of our nation; from a flood that inundated large swaths of Australia to rising seas affecting millions around the world, the reality of the climate crisis is upon us.

Our food systems, our cities, our people and our very way of life developed within a stable range of climatic conditions on Earth. Without immediate and decisive action, these favorable conditions on Earth could become a memory if we continue to make the climate crisis worse day after day after day.

With any great challenge comes great opportunity. We have the rare privilege to rise to an occasion of global magnitude. To do so, our communities, our businesses, our universities, and our governments need to work in harmony to stop the climate crisis. We must summon the very best of the human spirit and draw on our courage, our ingenuity, our intellect, and our determination to confront this crisis. Make no mistake, this crisis will demand no less than our very best. I am optimistic because we have risen to meet the greatest challenges of our past.

So please, take this day and the milestone it represents to reflect on the fragility of our civilization and and the planetary ecosystem on which it depends. Rededicate yourself to the task of saving our future. Talk to your neighbors, call your legislator, let your voice be heard. We must take immediate action to solve this crisis. Not tomorrow, not next week, not next year. Now.

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Old 05-10-2013, 04:53 PM
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Re: Delusional Al Gore Still Sounding the Alarm

Hmm well you call him delusional...but this intimates that 7+ billion people cannot alter the environment for the worse? Which I find kind of delusional myself, judging from a brief hike through...virtually anyplace that humans frequent! Except Colorado--where we string them types up!
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:19 PM
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Re: Delusional Al Gore Still Sounding the Alarm

If I had to guess, I would say that the most likely scenario is that the CO2 debate is strictly a cover for the humongous outpouring of methane, 27 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2, that pours out of every jet engine, thousands of times a day, as well as out of the CAFO protein that is force-fed GMO corn.

I'm not a big Gore fan, but your label of him as 'delusional,' when you certainly don't have any better clues--and most likely have a lot worse; links from the 'net --is prolly just hurting your 'cause,'--whatever that may be? in the end.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:09 PM
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If I had to guess, I would say that the most likely scenario is that the CO2 debate is strictly a cover for the humongous outpouring of methane, 27 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2, that pours out of every jet engine, thousands of times a day, as well as out of the CAFO protein that is force-fed GMO corn.

I'm not a big Gore fan, but your label of him as 'delusional,' when you certainly don't have any better clues--and most likely have a lot worse; links from the 'net --is prolly just hurting your 'cause,'--whatever that may be? in the end.
Well I think Gore gets hate for his company being involved in products that will benefit from green business.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:58 PM
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Hmm well you call him delusional...but this intimates that 7+ billion people cannot alter the environment for the worse? Which I find kind of delusional myself, judging from a brief hike through...virtually anyplace that humans frequent! Except Colorado--where we string them types up!
How do you come to that conclusion? Can human beings alter the environment? Yes. Are human beings causing so-called global warming, changes in the atmosphere, weather, holes in the ozone, causing catastrophic storms, etc? No. The earth was created with humans given dominion over it, to subdue it, to tame it, to harness it. The earth will last as long as God has determined by His sovereignty. Our planet will cease to exist as we know it when He, the Creator, decides it's time to melt the elements with fervent heat and create the New Earth.

It's a big waste of time to fret over the environment. As an ourdoorsman I want pristine areas to camp, hunt, fish, hike and vacation in. I'm not in favor of abuses, but the notion that cars and industry are dramatically causing environmental dangers that threaten our lives is foolish. Al Gore's take on it is pure nonsense.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:00 PM
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If I had to guess, I would say that the most likely scenario is that the CO2 debate is strictly a cover for the humongous outpouring of methane, 27 times more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2, that pours out of every jet engine, thousands of times a day, as well as out of the CAFO protein that is force-fed GMO corn.

I'm not a big Gore fan, but your label of him as 'delusional,' when you certainly don't have any better clues--and most likely have a lot worse; links from the 'net --is prolly just hurting your 'cause,'--whatever that may be? in the end.
Sure. You seem to make large leaps of assumptions about me and what I know or don't, so whatever. It's much ado about not much.
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:30 PM
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Sure. You seem to make large leaps of assumptions about me and what I know or don't, so whatever. It's much ado about not much.
Ha, I am just responding to a post. Gore can go take a leap, for all I care, but my position is that you cannot know any better than the 'experts,' who cannot seem to agree, about whether he is delusional or not? So, what is 'much ado about not much,' if not your initial post, wadr?

I'm curious what the agenda of this pov ultimaely even is, anyway? Justification for driving a Hummer, or something? Obviously some kind of guilt complex. Or, at least that's how it reads. Hmm, I've already asked this Q once today; would you be willing to bet your life that Gore is 'delusional,' and that human global warming is just a hoax?
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:41 PM
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"Are human beings causing so-called global warming, changes in the atmosphere, weather, holes in the ozone, causing catastrophic storms, etc? No."

Ah, and, wadr, what are your qualifications for making this sweeping proclamation?

" The earth was created with humans given dominion over it, to subdue it, to tame it, to harness it."

Hmm, but it seems we instead extinct species, create humongous balls of trash in the world's oceans, do in fact manufacture holes in the ozone layer, and generally wreak havoc--all in the name of Capitalism, of course--wherever we go! All with your blessing! Neat!

"The earth will last as long as God has determined by His sovereignty..."

Sure, but in what condition? We're at a new high for CO2 now, a first in human history...are you any less delusional than Gore might be? Are we in charge here, or is God? You seem to imply both? And that at the same time, the physical plane is still somehow immune to your actions? It cannot be both, do you not see?
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Old 05-13-2013, 02:43 PM
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Sure. You seem to make large leaps of assumptions about me and what I know or don't, so whatever. It's much ado about not much.
Please dont assume what I assume to know about you--you demonstrate that you do not know, and I am just pointing it out. I don't know, either, ok?
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