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04-20-2013, 01:17 AM
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No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
A Justice Department official says the Boston Marathon bombing suspect will not be read his Miranda rights because the government is invoking a public safety exception.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3120333.html
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04-20-2013, 08:09 AM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
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04-20-2013, 09:59 AM
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Don't agree with this. Nor do I agree with the warmongers Graham and McCain demanding he be labeled an enemy combatant to be kept out of federal court. He's a US citizen who committed a violent act like Timothy McVeigh. He should be tried in federal court just like McVeigh.
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04-20-2013, 11:06 AM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people say this man will be executed etc.
No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.
This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
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04-20-2013, 11:08 AM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people says this man will be executed etc.
No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.
This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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04-20-2013, 11:28 AM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people say this man will be executed etc.
No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.
This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
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Just wondering who would be considered his "peers"?? Would they have to be from Russia? Could they be people who were born here in the USA? or would they have to have become American citizens? Seriously, I'm just curious. I could see this becoming a major sticking point in a trial - unfortunately.
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04-20-2013, 11:32 AM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
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Just wondering who would be considered his "peers"?? Would they have to be from Russia? Could they be people who were born here in the USA? or would they have to have become American citizens? Seriously, I'm just curious. I could see this becoming a major sticking point in a trial - unfortunately.
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He is a legal permanent resident of the United States of America. His peers would be residents of the United States of America. We don't hold trials where we import jury members from another country. Even if an illegal alien stood trial for murder the "peers" would be other Americans.
I don't know of any situation where we deviate from that definition of "peers".
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04-20-2013, 01:31 PM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
will be classified as enemy combatant no court appt.attorney or miranda
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04-20-2013, 01:42 PM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
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Originally Posted by n david
Don't agree with this. Nor do I agree with the warmongers Graham and McCain demanding he be labeled an enemy combatant to be kept out of federal court. He's a US citizen who committed a violent act like Timothy McVeigh. He should be tried in federal court just like McVeigh.
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The reason why they want to not issue the Miranda and keep him as an enemy combatant is for possible intell from interrogations.
As soon as you read him his rights and he "lawers up", you lose that ability.
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04-20-2013, 01:44 PM
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Re: No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Everybody gets all giddy when someone is denied Miranda. I have heard news people say this man will be executed etc.
No matter how undeniable ones guilt may seem everyone should be afforded their rights under the Constitution (you know... those unalienable ones) and should also receive a trial from a jury of their peers. We are innocent until proven guilty.
This country is growing far too comfortable with deciding exactly who does and does not get rights afforded us ALL under the Constitution.
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Though he was a citizen, his brother was not and had possible ties to enemy combatants and spent the last 6 months (Nearly) in Chechnya. His Youtube account was plastered with Terrorist propaganda
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- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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