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02-29-2012, 11:55 PM
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crakjak
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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I don't think that was the only reason. It was for Michael Moore, et al. Of course, the MSM played a few clips to seem as though that was the overall reason for it.
And why would they vote for Romeny when he is Obama's twin? - strict cap and trade, Obamacare/Romneycare, etc. etc.
I've read remarks by a whole lot of liberals that are disappointed in Obama's presidency, (Oprah not campaigning for him again - even Obama's lapdog, Matt Damon, is disappointed ) so, I think that some Democrats would vote against him.
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Better decide to like him, he is going to win the nomination. I will vote for the nominee, because I don't want Obama. Any conservative that does not vote for the nominee will just be shooting themselves in the foot. I will not try to convince you of Romney's strengths, why would I with what you posted here. But you need to get over yourself and commit to vote for the nominee. LOL
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02-29-2012, 11:57 PM
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crakjak
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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This is a very well done ad by Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRnC...layer_embedded
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Anybody can demonize anyone, and make them look bad, Ron Paul would be easy to demonize.
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03-01-2012, 09:29 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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This is a very well done ad by Ron Paul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRnC...layer_embedded
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Man, I like Ron Paul. That is a great ad. I wish people gave him more of a chance. Unfortunately, I think his age and unwillingness to walk lock step with the GOP have hurt his campaign. I would love to see a debate between Ron Paul and President Obama. Paul would wipe the smirk off the Presidents face and send him back to Chicago for a permanent vacation.
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I've read remarks by a whole lot of liberals that are disappointed in Obama's presidency, (Oprah not campaigning for him again - even Obama's lapdog, Matt Damon, is disappointed ) so, I think that some Democrats would vote against him.
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Matt Damon and others are disappointed because they don't think President Obama's gone far enough left. They're disappointed he hasn't adopted even more left-wing policies. There's NO WAY Damon and other liberals would vote against the President -- especially not for a Republican.
Now, if Hillary or another Democrat would have challenged the President in the primaries, then perhaps they would have voted against him. But there's no way on God's green earth any liberal, who is upset with the President, will be mad enough to vote for any Republican.
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03-01-2012, 09:47 AM
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crakjak
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Man, I like Ron Paul. That is a great ad. I wish people gave him more of a chance. Unfortunately, I think his age and unwillingness to walk lock step with the GOP have hurt his campaign. I would love to see a debate between Ron Paul and President Obama. Paul would wipe the smirk off the Presidents face and send him back to Chicago for a permanent vacation.
Matt Damon and others are disappointed because they don't think President Obama's gone far enough left. They're disappointed he hasn't adopted even more left-wing policies. There's NO WAY Damon and other liberals would vote against the President -- especially not for a Republican.
Now, if Hillary or another Democrat would have challenged the President in the primaries, then perhaps they would have voted against him. But there's no way on God's green earth any liberal, who is upset with the President, will be mad enough to vote for any Republican.
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I will vote for Ron Paul if he is the nominee. But I like most everyone else don't feel he can appeal to enough of Republicans to be nominated. If he were nominated, he would be demonized as a kook, the leftist media would have a field day. If he won the Presidency, and the congress, how much would he be able to get done? It would be interesting, the clash of the culture!!! We definitely need a shake up of the status quo.
Your right about the leftists, they aren't gonna vote for any GOP, no matter how stupid there candidate happens to be.
I like Romney and believe he would be a very good president. So what if he is rich, and speaks from that perspective, he didn't get rich by wasting resources. And his Mormon roots are conservative socially, we are not electing a spiritual leader but a secular political leader.
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03-01-2012, 11:03 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Better decide to like him, he is going to win the nomination. I will vote for the nominee, because I don't want Obama. Any conservative that does not vote for the nominee will just be shooting themselves in the foot. I will not try to convince you of Romney's strengths, why would I with what you posted here. But you need to get over yourself and commit to vote for the nominee. LOL
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WUT? Get...get.. get over myself?!!!!
Liar is the only thing that comes to my mind when I think of Mitt Romney.
I will let Thomas Sowell speak for me today in his new article - Super Tuesday:
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Mitt Romney is the kind of candidate that the Republican establishment has always looked for, a moderate who can appeal to independents. It doesn't matter how many such candidates have turned out to be disasters on election night, going all the way back to Thomas E. Dewey in 1948.
Newt Gingrich is the only candidate still in the field who can clearly take on Barack Obama in one-on-one debate and cut through the Obama rhetoric and mystique with hard facts and plain logic.
Nor is this just a matter of having a gift of gab. Gingrich has a far deeper grasp of both the policies and the politics than the other Republican candidates.
http://townhall.com/columnists/thoma.../super_tuesday
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Romney will be just like John Boehner on the debt ceiling debate - talking tough and capitulating to the Establishment. Useless to the true core and sense of purpose in guiding people toward the right goal. His only goal is to follow people and to score quick political victories. He is not a leader, he is a follower.
But, you are right, anyone is better than Obamanation.
And on a side note - RIP Andrew Breitbart - Fearless Journalist! You will be missed!!!!
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03-01-2012, 11:10 AM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by n david
Man, I like Ron Paul. That is a great ad. I wish people gave him more of a chance. Unfortunately, I think his age and unwillingness to walk lock step with the GOP have hurt his campaign. I would love to see a debate between Ron Paul and President Obama. Paul would wipe the smirk off the Presidents face and send him back to Chicago for a permanent vacation.
Matt Damon and others are disappointed because they don't think President Obama's gone far enough left. They're disappointed he hasn't adopted even more left-wing policies. There's NO WAY Damon and other liberals would vote against the President -- especially not for a Republican.
Now, if Hillary or another Democrat would have challenged the President in the primaries, then perhaps they would have voted against him. But there's no way on God's green earth any liberal, who is upset with the President, will be mad enough to vote for any Republican.
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It was a great ad. I don't know why people would want to trust Mitt Romney on the the healthcare issue when his plan was the blueprint for Obamacare. Just amazes me because, he still believes in Romneycare, defends it and then says he will repeal Obamacare. Somehow that is not working for me.
I heard Matt Damon, et al, speak of their disappointment on how he has handled the economy. They didn't say anything about him not moving further to the left.
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03-02-2012, 11:09 AM
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crakjak
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
WUT? Get...get.. get over myself?!!!!
Liar is the only thing that comes to my mind when I think of Mitt Romney.
I will let Thomas Sowell speak for me today in his new article - Super Tuesday:
Romney will be just like John Boehner on the debt ceiling debate - talking tough and capitulating to the Establishment. Useless to the true core and sense of purpose in guiding people toward the right goal. His only goal is to follow people and to score quick political victories. He is not a leader, he is a follower.
But, you are right, anyone is better than Obamanation.
And on a side note - RIP Andrew Breitbart - Fearless Journalist! You will be missed!!!!
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Newt can be very good in debates, he also has been very bad, and the fact that he has so faded is very disturbing to me.
Boehners job is very difficult, if he goes too much to the right the Demos demonize the GOP House as radical, and the media pounds and pounds that theme. You know the drill: "...racists, homophobic, etc, etc...!!! So, don't beat up John too bad.
I believe Romney knows that this country is in serious financial trouble, and he knows the president better get busy, or we go as Greece? The Occupy movement will be a walk in the park compared to the riots that will fill the streets. I don't think he will be that weak, whoever the president is, he is going to have a tough job and he better be up to it.
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03-02-2012, 01:23 PM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
The media is able to beat up on Beohner and such becaus enone of them, including Romney, will just comeout and tell us the bottom line: we are 16+ Trillion in debt and we have to cut spending across the board whether people like it or not. Social programs, welfare, defense (yes even defense) and everythign else needs to be cut. If you don't liek that...tough. We all did this ourselves. We have lived above our means for too long. We have created one giant poo sandwich and now it's time for everyone to take a bite. Suck it up. Deal with it. Endure a few years of pain and having less and we will come out the other side as a country in a balanced financial position.
No one has the guts to say this b/c they are more interested in keeping their elected position of royalty than they are with actually fixing anything.
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03-02-2012, 05:29 PM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Newt can be very good in debates, he also has been very bad, and the fact that he has so faded is very disturbing to me.
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The media is fading who it wants to fade and Mitt hasn't done a stellar debate job himself. Newt won the Arizona debate - hands down and the media ignored it. Why I know? O'Reilly said no one talked about gas prices and Newt sure did.
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Boehners job is very difficult, if he goes too much to the right the Demos demonize the GOP House as radical, and the media pounds and pounds that theme. You know the drill: "...racists, homophobic, etc, etc...!!! So, don't beat up John too bad.
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Not trying to beat him up too bad, but I thought he'd do a better job.
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I believe Romney knows that this country is in serious financial trouble, and he knows the president better get busy, or we go as Greece? The Occupy movement will be a walk in the park compared to the riots that will fill the streets. I don't think he will be that weak, whoever the president is, he is going to have a tough job and he better be up to it.
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I agree with you here.
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03-02-2012, 05:35 PM
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Re: I Can't Stand Romney.
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
The media is able to beat up on Bo3hner and such because not one of them, including Romney, will just come out and tell us the bottom line: we are 16+ Trillion in debt and we have to cut spending across the board whether people like it or not. Social programs, welfare, defense (yes even defense) and everything else needs to be cut. If you don't like that...tough. We all did this ourselves. We have lived above our means for too long. We have created one giant poo sandwich and now it's time for everyone to take a bite. Suck it up. Deal with it. Endure a few years of pain and having less and we will come out the other side as a country in a balanced financial position.
No one has the guts to say this b/c they are more interested in keeping their elected position of royalty than they are with actually fixing anything.
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Newt has been very plain and I also like what he had to say to the Afghans -
"You know, you’re going to have to figure out how to live your own miserable life. ... Because you clearly don't want to learn from me how to be unmiserable."
Anyway, yes, I know that Mitt is the chosen one, but I think Newt would do a great job not only debating against the President, but running this country. All of the candidates learn toward a bigger government, (except for Paul who won't win) but at least Newt has a record of written conservative policy.
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