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Old 03-19-2011, 10:48 PM
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Re: Emphasizing the Wrong Priorities

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I think the problem is that some of more liberal people come to some conservative conferences ( where its more for the saint then the sinner although it’s a good time anytime for someone to get the HG) and that’s what they may hear preached but if they would go to our local assembly they would find that its not preached very often at all
That's really a good point. I know in the past that the preaching of standards at conferences has been frowned upon. What I am seeing in more recent fellowship meetings i think is very positive because we are more open and it allows us to be on the same page. It brings us to the same level. I attended East Coast conference in Durham this past year. Of course there was some preaching on standards, however that was not the dominating subject of the conference. 19 received the Holy Ghost. I watched one young lady attend 3 services and watched as the skepticism melted away with each service. In the last service she was in the altar and received the Holy Ghost beautifully. You could see complete transformation on her face. I would like for some of those who criticize our stance to attend some of our services, i am sure that the power of God would convince them of God's favor on what we are doing. His Spirit is leading His church. But the only ones that will hear him will be "those that have an ear".
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:34 AM
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I think the problem is that some of more liberal people come to some conservative conferences ( where its more for the saint then the sinner although it’s a good time anytime for someone to get the HG) and that’s what they may hear preached but if they would go to our local assembly they would find that its not preached very often at all
The irony here is that churches that don't preach standards very often, yet still hold them, have been labeled liberal and those pastors that seldom preach standards have been labeled charismatic. I don't understand that
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:21 AM
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The irony here is that churches that don't preach standards very often, yet still hold them, have been labeled liberal and those pastors that seldom preach standards have been labeled charismatic. I don't understand that
Nobody calls my church liberal.
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Nobody calls my church liberal.
That's my point
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:57 AM
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That's my point
That is my point also... It has been a long while now since the last time I have heard standards preached from a local church setting.
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That is my point also... It has been a long while now since the last time I have heard standards preached from a local church setting.
Well Im glad to hear that. Im curious though. You have not posted on this forum much in a long long time. Yet the first post I can recall you posting recently was a negative comment about TV and then the thread on how if anyone listens to any kind of secular music they are not a Christian.

Maybe you can see how some might think you hear more rules and regulation type preaching?

In fact, from past experience those topics seem to have been mostly what you engaged in here on this forum.

Are there any other topics you like to discuss? What are some of the non rules and regulation messages your pastor has taught?
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Hey HTG, it's late and I gotta hit the sack. It was good talking with you. Maybe we can get together some time for coffee
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Old 03-20-2011, 02:49 AM
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Well Im glad to hear that. Im curious though. You have not posted on this forum much in a long long time. Yet the first post I can recall you posting recently was a negative comment about TV and then the thread on how if anyone listens to any kind of secular music they are not a Christian.

Maybe you can see how some might think you hear more rules and regulation type preaching?

In fact, from past experience those topics seem to have been mostly what you engaged in here on this forum.

Are there any other topics you like to discuss? What are some of the non rules and regulation messages your pastor has taught?
I'll admit, on the form it is fun to stir the pot but as you pointed out, I can see how it can back fire by doing so.

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Old 03-20-2011, 03:10 AM
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Hey HTG, it's late and I gotta hit the sack. It was good talking with you. Maybe we can get together some time for coffee
Sounds like a good idea, I'll take you up on that offer.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:22 AM
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I'll admit, on the form it is fun to stir the pot but as you pointed out, I can see how it can back fire by doing so.
Honesty!! I like it!

In truth, most people are closet pot stirrers from time to time. LOL
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