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Old 07-13-2009, 05:00 PM
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The newest czar for Obama.

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The man President Obama has chosen to be his science czar once advocated a shocking approach to the "population crisis" feared by scientists at the time: namely, compulsory abortions in the U.S. and a "Planetary Regime" with the power to enforce human reproduction restrictions.

"There exists ample authority under which population growth could be regulated," wrote Obama appointee John Holdren, as reported by FrontPage Magazine. "It has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society."

Holdren's comments, made in 1977, mirror the astonishing admission this week of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who said she was under the impression that legalizing abortion with the 1973 Roe. v. Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, or as she put it "populations that we don't want to have too many of."
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:28 PM
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Re: The newest czar for Obama.

This world is getting scary by the day with this man at the helm!
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:00 PM
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Re: The newest czar for Obama.

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John Holdren
The man President Obama has chosen to be his science czar once advocated a shocking approach to the "population crisis" feared by scientists at the time: namely, compulsory abortions in the U.S. and a "Planetary Regime" with the power to enforce human reproduction restrictions.

"There exists ample authority under which population growth could be regulated," wrote Obama appointee John Holdren, as reported by FrontPage Magazine. "It has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society."

Holdren's comments, made in 1977, mirror the astonishing admission this week of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who said she was under the impression that legalizing abortion with the 1973 Roe. v. Wade case would eliminate undesirable members of the populace, or as she put it "populations that we don't want to have too many of."
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Sounds like Germany under Hitler. Makes me wonder how over population of senior citizens or maybe even Christians.will be handled.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:30 PM
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Re: The newest czar for Obama.

Perhaps all that scary "camp" talk is not all fiction!
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This world is getting scary by the day with this man at the helm!
Peter Senge another New Age modern scholar says we should let infants grow a little and still have the right to end their lives. Kinda like Obama voting several times against the Born Alive Infant Protection act.
(Pharoah in the time of Moses killed all the boys. This liberal abortion is not new)
Senge says Christians should be fired if they don't fit the cultural model of a modern employer.
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Perhaps all that scary "camp" talk is not all fiction!
Nope, it's fiction and will remain fiction as long as we have a bicameral Congress, a Supreme Court, citizens with the right to vote.....

and then there's that Jesus guy that has His ENTIRE Creation in the palm of His hands.



We have NOTHING, abosolutely NOTHING to fear.





We are more and we are mightier!

Wow! It's Monday evening and I still feel like I just left Church!!!
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Nope, it's fiction and will remain fiction as long as we have a bicameral Congress, a Supreme Court, citizens with the right to vote.....

and then there's that Jesus guy that has His ENTIRE Creation in the palm of His hands.



We have NOTHING, abosolutely NOTHING to fear.





We are more and we are mightier!

Wow! It's Monday evening and I still feel like I just left Church!!!
I like your attitude.

Yes, Jesus will save us and we have hope. We have nothing to fear just like the Christians had nothing to fear during the times of Roman empire. Or Paul when he said to live is Christ and to die is gain. Jesus even told us not to fear those that can kill the body but have no power over eternity. So in a sense you are right that we should not fear. But that doesn't mean we might not have to live and/or die in a bunch of unpleasantness.

What could happen if a party gain control over all three parts of our government?
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I like your attitude.

Yes, Jesus will save us and we have hope. We have nothing to fear just like the Christians had nothing to fear during the times of Roman empire. Or Paul when he said to live is Christ and to die is gain. Jesus even told us not to fear those that can kill the body but have no power over eternity. So in a sense you are right that we should not fear. But that doesn't mean we might not have to live and/or die in a bunch of unpleasantness.

What could happen if a party gain control over all three parts of our government?
It could be the end of the world as we know it.
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It could be the end of the world as we know it.
That's a possibility.

By the way, THANK YOU for serving your Country!

Do you think there is a chance that the U.S. Constitution might need defending here on our own soil?
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That's a possibility.

By the way, THANK YOU for serving your Country!

Do you think there is a chance that the U.S. Constitution might need defending here on our own soil?

Honestly, no. However, the way the U.S. Constitution is written, it does allow for the PEOPLE to bring drastic change to the entire government process via the election process.

If there was EVER a need to fight for our country against elements within our country bent on destroying our country, it would be a very bad day.


That day is not here, not now. I don't believe we are close to that day either.

We are closer to the return of Christ than we are to the destruction of America.
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