In the context of American history, he's considered to be a Black man.
His father is not Arab, he's African.
Obviously you know nothing about African nationalities. You can be African and be white if you are from South Africa. A huge portion of Africans are mixed with Arabs.
Obama's father was born on the shores of Lake Victoria in Nyang’oma Kogelo, Alego, Siaya, Kenya to Hussein Onyango Obama (c.1895-1979), and Akumu Habiba.[1] His family are members of the Luo tribe.
The Luo (also called Jaluo and Joluo) are an ethnic group in Kenya, eastern Uganda, and northern Tanzania. They are part of a larger group of ethnolinguistically related Luo peoples who inhabit an area including southern Sudan, northern and eastern Uganda, western Kenya, and northern Tanzania.
If you go by bloodline, the majority of people in Sudan have Arab blood. In fact, the reason there are so many Muslim/Islamic mosque/people in Africa, is because of the infiltration of Arabs into those areas. The countries in Africa that were French colonies were mostly Catholic and there are many "Africans" who are half Black and half French. You cannot use the term "African" to claim a person is black. In South Africa there are many Dutch and English people who are white as snow but are called "Africans."
Obviously you know nothing about African nationalities. You can be African and be white if you are from South Africa. A huge portion of Africans are mixed with Arabs.
OBVIOUSLY we are talking about Sen. Obama's father who is NOT Arab.
Let it go George. The man is not Arab, not in part, not at all.
If he was, so what! Sen. Obama is as American as you and I REGARDLESS of his father's ancestry.
Let it go.
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I've heard it over and over again even from Black people myself
That they believe when white people say they wont vote for Obama
because he's a MUSLIM, it's actually an undercover code meaning
that you wont vote for him because he's black.
Have you heard this before ??
Do you agree or disagree with it ???
There are black people that won't vote for Obama for their various reasons. I think it's absurd to connect being black with being Muslim when Islam is an Arabic religion not an African religion
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Obviously you know nothing about African nationalities. You can be African and be white if you are from South Africa. A huge portion of Africans are mixed with Arabs.
George, but I understood the initial post to be about color...whether he was indeed half black or just 1/4 black. One look at his father will confirm that his father is absolutely black...and his mother is absolutely white. I think that it is a true statement that he is only 1/2 black and 1/2 white, however going 1/4 black and 1/4 Arabic is pushing it. You mentioned the distinction between Arabic and Muslim a few posts back, I also think that it is important to understand the difference between Arabic and Black African Muslim.
In my mind and in a vacuum it would be fair to say that you should not consider him Black, but historically in America he would have been considered very much Black. There were those who were almost visually comp[letely White who were considered Black and treated as such. I don't necessarily like it but it is not a departure from the American culture and the way we have always viewed these things. Personally, I feel that it does not pay sufficient homage to half of his family tree, but it is the reality.
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Don't confuse Muslim and Arabic. One is a religion and one is a nationality. You can be Arabic and not be Muslim.
The lady on that video accused Barack Obama of being "Arab" to John McCain. He quickly denounced it and said "No ma'am" that it wasn't true. End of the story.
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If you go by bloodline, the majority of people in Sudan have Arab blood. In fact, the reason there are so many Muslim/Islamic mosque/people in Africa, is because of the infiltration of Arabs into those areas.
Ok.
You are correct in saying that the Sudan has a lot Muslims, but that is because of relatively recent historical developments on that continent.
The ARabs are not historically from the Sudan area of the continent. They are the recent intruders to the area.
The Arabs there are the ones performing the clitorectomies on the women so as to deny them any pleasure in sex.
The Arabs are the ones hacking the arms off of the boys and girls of the families who won't submit to Islam "peacefully".
There is so much unrest, killing and war in that part of the continient because the Arabs are not from that area (historically) but they are trying to spread Islam and make the Sudan into an Islamic state.
Most of the non-Arabs whose bloodlines actually place them in that area are resisting, or they're already dead.
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OBVIOUSLY we are talking about Sen. Obama's father who is NOT Arab.
Let it go George. The man is not Arab, not in part, not at all.
If he was, so what! Sen. Obama is as American as you and I REGARDLESS of his father's ancestry.
Let it go.
You are the one who is not letting it go by continuing to argue. I am not throwing stones at Obama just stating facts. Sen. Obama is as American as I am but I have Indian, French, & English blood in me. I don't go use the term White American and I don't like the term Black American. Just my opinion. We keep racism alive by labeling colors. In conclusion, Obama does have Arabic, African and mostly white blood in him. That is not calling him a Muslin but stating his bloodline just like mine.
There are black people that won't vote for Obama for their various reasons. I think it's absurd to connect being black with being Muslim when Islam is an Arabic religion not an African religion
The fact is that there are folks who are not voting for Sen. Obama because he is Black, but are using the cover that it's because he's a Muslim.
That is the "observation" of many partisan and non-partisan observers of this historic election.
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You are the one who is not letting it go by continuing to argue. I am not throwing stones at Obama just stating facts. Sen. Obama is as American as I am but I have Indian, French, & English blood in me. I don't go use the term White American and I don't like the term Black American. Just my opinion. We keep racism alive by labeling colors. In conclusion, Obama does have Arabic, African and mostly white blood in him. That is not calling him a Muslin but stating his bloodline just like mine.
In conclusion, you are mistaken to state he is Arab.
George, he's not Arab, not in part, not at all.
Last I checked, a baby gets his bloodline from his father anyway. His father is African.
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