Obama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren

[Rico]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

whatever, lol, dont come to me when they come for you libs, i will be busy taking care of my family, dt

As if I won't be.

[DividedThigh]

i am sure you will look out for yours rico, dt

[Aquila]

The question I have is...when will we wake up and determine not to allow the Republicans and the Democrats destroy us?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Masses are easily manipulated by extremists. The extremists teach the masses that their way is the way of "God" and then then masses feel it necessary to support measures implimented and supported by the extremist regimes. It's like the Christian Right in America. Same deal. If we express serious disatisfaction with the Christian Right's political positions we are labeled "non-Christians", "pro-aborts", "murderers", "communists", etc. Sadly, rank and file believers are craving acceptance in a world that's hostile to their faith. When the Christian Right issues these rejections, psychologically, rank and file believers begin adopting and agreeing with even the most extreme of right wing policies crafted by the Christian Right.

There are a sizeable number of Muslims that just want to live peaceably. To deny this is a lie. To say that vast numbers aren't manipulated by extremists is a lie. There are significant numbers of Muslims that fall down on both sides of the issue.

In regards to "Sharia courts" those are courts designed to address religious violations, the civil laws of Britain still are in play. For example, the UPCI has it's own procedings based on our Christian interpretation of the Scripture. I see no issue with it. So what. If they want to prosecute a woman for not wearing a viel and expell her from the community of faith, that's their issue.

Now, as for the United States. The two greatest threats to liberty are the Republican and Democratic parties. A vote for either is a betrayal of American ideals, some would say even on the level of treason.

Aquila is it really necessay to point out some "sizable minority"

Dude, EVERY muslim country that has had the chance to elect its lawmakers has CHOSEN a government that enacts Sharia law! EVERY. not one or two! EVERY.

Are there some really nice muslims who dont think that is the way to go? yes. problably many of those in America fit the bill.

I DONT CARE. BECAUSE MOST DONT THINK THAT WAY

and how do you tell them apart? you cant.

that doesnt mean i hate muslims. but you wont fine me voting for one...ever.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Masses are easily manipulated by extremists. The extremists teach the masses that their way is the way of "God" and then then masses feel it necessary to support measures implimented and supported by the extremist regimes. It's like the Christian Right in America. Same deal. If we express serious disatisfaction with the Christian Right's political positions we are labeled "non-Christians", "pro-aborts", "murderers", "communists", etc. Sadly, rank and file believers are craving acceptance in a world that's hostile to their faith. When the Christian Right issues these rejections, psychologically, rank and file believers begin adopting and agreeing with even the most extreme of right wing policies crafted by the Christian Right.

There are a sizeable number of Muslims that just want to live peaceably. To deny this is a lie. To say that vast numbers aren't manipulated by extremists is a lie. There are significant numbers of Muslims that fall down on both sides of the issue.

In regards to "Sharia courts" those are courts designed to address religious violations, the civil laws of Britain still are in play. For example, the UPCI has it's own procedings based on our Christian interpretation of the Scripture. I see no issue with it. So what. If they want to prosecute a woman for not wearing a viel and expell her from the community of faith, that's their issue.

Now, as for the United States. The two greatest threats to liberty are the Republican and Democratic parties. A vote for either is a betrayal of American ideals, some would say even on the level of treason.

the emboldended is a balled faced lie and you need to revise it.

when you decide to be pro-choice, you are called abortionists because you support abortion. when you want to vote for socialists you are called socialists.

NOT by the christian right, but by anyone who can understand that supporting abortion means supporting abortion and supporting socialism means supporting socialism.

please retract the statement.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Masses are easily manipulated by extremists. The extremists teach the masses that their way is the way of "God" and then then masses feel it necessary to support measures implimented and supported by the extremist regimes. It's like the Christian Right in America. Same deal. If we express serious disatisfaction with the Christian Right's political positions we are labeled "non-Christians", "pro-aborts", "murderers", "communists", etc. Sadly, rank and file believers are craving acceptance in a world that's hostile to their faith. When the Christian Right issues these rejections, psychologically, rank and file believers begin adopting and agreeing with even the most extreme of right wing policies crafted by the Christian Right.

There are a sizeable number of Muslims that just want to live peaceably. To deny this is a lie. To say that vast numbers aren't manipulated by extremists is a lie. There are significant numbers of Muslims that fall down on both sides of the issue.

In regards to "Sharia courts" those are courts designed to address religious violations, the civil laws of Britain still are in play. For example, the UPCI has it's own procedings based on our Christian interpretation of the Scripture. I see no issue with it. So what. If they want to prosecute a woman for not wearing a viel and expell her from the community of faith, that's their issue.

Now, as for the United States. The two greatest threats to liberty are the Republican and Democratic parties. A vote for either is a betrayal of American ideals, some would say even on the level of treason.

this post has more insanity in it to even address. I dont have the energy to continue. but there aint nothing here I can agree with. wacky.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by Ferd

the emboldended is a balled faced lie and you need to revise it.
when you decide to be pro-choice, you are called abortionists because you support abortion. when you want to vote for socialists you are called socialists.

NOT by the christian right, but by anyone who can understand that supporting abortion means supporting abortion and supporting socialism means supporting socialism.

please retract the statement.

What about his statement do you take issue with? Whether you think it's justified or not, it is an accurate claim. These words are frequently used to describe those who doesn't tow the Christian-Republican party line. I've heard these words used on AFF. Why should he retract? It's true.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ferd

the emboldended is a balled faced lie and you need to revise it.

when you decide to be pro-choice, you are called abortionists because you support abortion. when you want to vote for socialists you are called socialists.

NOT by the christian right, but by anyone who can understand that supporting abortion means supporting abortion and supporting socialism means supporting socialism.

please retract the statement.

Talk about a bold faced lie!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by DerrickS

What about his statement do you take issue with? Whether you think it's justified or not, it is an accurate claim. These words are frequently used to describe those who doesn't tow the Christian-Republican party line. I've heard these words used on AFF. Why should he retract? It's true.

the assertion that those that don't toe the line are called these things because they don't toe the line. it is a lie. as I explained. a person may very well get called out for supporting a socialist. (I have done that) but the implication is that it is done with out merit and it done as a tool of the "Christian right"


that is a flat out lie Derrick. As one who has called Aquila out MANY times, I am NOT willing to be mischaracterized.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Rico

Talk about a bold faced lie!

we have covered this. I stand by the statement.


YOU have said HERE that you are pro choice. ergo....