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Old 10-13-2007, 12:06 PM
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You are now on ignore Coop ... The Great Commission does not ask for green cards .... sad.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:16 PM
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You are now on ignore Coop ... The Great Commission does not ask for green cards .... sad.
Cooper just doing what right.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:24 PM
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When I comes to The USA and it's freedoms we all play by the rules.

This has nothing to do with COOPER against any group.

If you are any kind of illegal alien you are a law breaker.

If you want to live in the USA; do it the right way.

If you are in the USA and can not speak English; 99.9 percent of the time you are illegal weather you are Russian, African, Cuban, French or Mexican.

This shows your dis-respect to USA and it's freedoms if you agree that any alien de-serves to stay in the USA.

Jesus can save them in their own land.

Christians should never harbor illegal's in the name of Salvation.


Teach them Jesus, but then teach them to obey the Federal laws of Immigration.

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Old 10-13-2007, 12:38 PM
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You might as well give yourself your props, doesn't seem like anyone else will.

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Old 10-13-2007, 12:53 PM
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When I comes to The USA and it's freedoms we all play by the rules.

This has nothing to do with COOPER against any group.

If you are any kind of illegal alien you are a law breaker.

If you want to live in the USA; do it the right way.

If you are in the USA and can not speak English; 99.9 percent of the time you are illegal weather you are Russian, African, Cuban, French or Mexican.

This shows your dis-respect to USA and it's freedoms if you agree that any alien de-serves to stay in the USA.

Jesus can save them in their own land.

Christians should never harbor illegal's in the name of Salvation.

Teach them Jesus, but then teach them to obey the Federal laws of Immigration.
Cooper, first of all it is my fervent belief that none of us "deserves to be here." We have been given an awesome gift just by the fact that we have the privilege to be in America. What did you or I do to earn a place in American society? We just woke up one day and realized, "Hey! This ain't Calcutta..." (No offense, Calcutta... I'm just sayin').

I have one great-grandfather who had to sneak out of the old Austrian Empire to avoid forced impressment into the Austrian Army (he wasn't Austrian). This was after his family had lost all of their lands. Other forebearers left starvation and exploitation that was tantamount to slavery (The word "slavery" comes from the Slavic peoples). In my grandparents home there hung a portrait of my great-great grandmother. She was a Cherokee and her mother walked on foot, through the winter all the way from Georgia to Oklahoma - with a bayonet against her back.

I like to point out to my kids that both of their grandfathers never had an indoor toilet until they joined the United States Army (1950's). "My people" are Americans to the core, despite the fact that none of us have ever been born to wealth. When compared with the way the rest of the world has to live, the poorest American is wealthy.

You and I did nothing to deserve or to earn this. It was God's gift. I agree that we need to control our borders better. The lawlessness that exists to the South is dangerous - and I notice from the news accounts it's mostly the Mexican people who suffer because of this. Uncle Sam can do a whole lot better for the people of Mexico if the current exploitative and unfair system of illegal immigration was reigned in.

That being said, I don't blame the guys who are coming here looking for a better life. Many of the "illegals" that I have known are actually "migrants;" that is, their families are in Mexico (or whatever homeland). They're just coming North for the work, save up as much as they can and send it home until they're ready to go back themselves. If they're lucky, work really hard and stay alive long enough they can have a pretty nice life when they go back home. Sure it's "illegal" to cross the border without going through the controls. But for all intents and purposes the United States has pretty much set up a green light for many years. If you want to change that get after your congressman not the migrants.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:20 PM
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You are now on ignore Coop ... The Great Commission does not ask for green cards .... sad.
Help me out here Dan. I know that you have a love for the lost, but aren't you being just a little bit biased? I only ask knowing that you have a hispanic background. My wife has a "green card", and we went through the painstaking process of becoming legal.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:22 PM
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Help me out here Dan. I know that you have a love for the lost, but aren't you being just a little bit biased? I only ask knowing that you have a hispanic background. My wife has a "green card", and we went through the painstaking process of becoming legal.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:45 PM
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Yes, I've seen it sis, maybe his presentation was "off". I love Hispanics, that isn't my point, but I do believe that we should follow the laws of our country.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:50 PM
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Yes, I've seen it sis, maybe his presentation was "off". I love Hispanics, that isn't my point, but I do believe that we should follow the laws of our country.

He was out of line and still is with his poll. This forum is not for this junk. There are things I would love to say, but I use self control.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:52 PM
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He was out of line and still is with his poll. This forum is not for this junk. There are things I would love to say, but I use self control.
You're probably right sis, I apologize.
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