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09-11-2007, 09:44 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Originally Posted by Strongminded
Definitely T F Tenney
His recent teaching..."Let the Redeemed of the Lord Dress So" was fantastic.
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T F preached the night I received the Holy Spirit.
I also enjoy D K Bernard a lot as well as Dan Seagraves.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-11-2007, 09:59 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by RevDWW
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I made a comparison. How can they hear without a preacher? I understand.
But the teacher is there for the road.
The preacher is there for the conversion.
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09-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by Sissy
I believe one person can be both a preacher and teacher. My husband can preach evangelistic on a Sunday night and he also can teach bible studies (break down the scriptures to where everyone can understand) on Wed. night. I know many Pastors that can do both.
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I agree my Dad was both as well. It is like a singer who can also preach. They are blessed with more than one talent.
Nate
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09-11-2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
The up-and-coming generation are just products of "the machine"....
certain types of messages and certain types of deliveries are promoted
and as the result, many young preachers just clone what's rewarded....
rewarded how? rewarded by compliments, rewarded by opportunities in
ministry, more preaching engagements, comparisons to other "well-known"
preachers, etc....
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There is a minister in my church that I think listens to too many preaching tapes. When he preaches he has a lot of what I consider "UPC cliches" that don't have scriptural backing. My pastor doesn't preach like that at all and we don't have many visiting ministers so I figure he must have gotten his style from tapes or CDs. Too bad because I prefer a good solid message from the Bible (which my pastor excels at) rather than the latest bywords.
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09-11-2007, 10:22 PM
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Elder Henry Mobley is a great teacher he is a professor of history and French at the Uof T.
Elder Fred Shepard is a good teacher.
Elder Jim Lee is a good teacher.
Elder James Swindle is a good teacher.
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09-11-2007, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ReformedDave
I'm related to a pretty good UPC bible teacher......Actually two.
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Your Father had one of the finest "minds" in modern day Pentecost. At 5 and 6 years old when a child normally isn't wanting to hear anything but "Amen!" I remember sitting with rapt attention to teaching that I remember vividly to this day over 55 years later!
Raven
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09-11-2007, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven
Your Father had one of the finest "minds" in modern day Pentecost. At 5 and 6 years old when a child normally isn't wanting to hear anything but "Amen!" I remember sitting with rapt attention to teaching that I remember vividly to this day over 55 years later!
Raven
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I wish I could have heard his Dad but never got the priviledge.
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09-11-2007, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
A teacher feels just as comfortable talking about his message one-on-one after the service.
A preacher just wants to talk to the pews with no one talking back.
A preacher looks for an Amen, a teacher looks for a student.
A preacher counts those filled with the Holy Ghost and baptized after they preach.
A teacher longs to learn from their student at some point down the road.
A preacher looks for instant results.
A teacher looks for lasting results.
A preacher will be quoted for the "Title of their sermon".
A teacher will be quoted as to the title of their book.
A preacher will be noted for their style.
A teacher will be noted for their insite.
Most preachers have a hard time learing new revelations.
Teachers are always first a student.
I could go on and on....
These are my own thoughts....
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This post seems to make teachers superior to preachers in many ways. I don't think the Bible (or anyone else for that matter) really agrees with you.  Every single time you said "preacher" you should have prefaced it with "novice", and every time you said "teacher" you should have prefaced it with "good", because you are comparing traits of a GOOD teacher to those of an inexperienced, immature or ignorant preacher.
There are plenty of GOOD preachers, and there are plenty of ignorant teachers.
I give this post an F. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-11-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
But the teacher is there for the road.
The preacher is there for the conversion.
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Hmmm...C-minus for this one....I guess.
Assuming you're right...which is more important? The conversion or the road? Can you have one without the other?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-11-2007, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckstadt
John the Baptist was a preacher, Jesus was the teacher.
One leads you to Christ.
The other tells you who he is!
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Finally! I give this post an A+.
Okay, I'm finished grading papers. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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