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Old 09-11-2007, 04:35 PM
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Neckstadt, how did you develop this line of thinking?

I have always just thought that was how it is?

God chose the folishness of preaching to save the lost!

The writer needed to state, God chose the revelation of the teacher to keep them saved!
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:36 PM
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Teachers don't get the respect red-faced,yelling, Preachers get..
But teachers don't sweat as much; saves on dry cleaning bills.
We all have our priorities!
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:36 PM
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The up-and-coming generation are just products of "the machine"....
certain types of messages and certain types of deliveries are promoted
and as the result, many young preachers just clone what's rewarded....
rewarded how? rewarded by compliments, rewarded by opportunities in
ministry, more preaching engagements, comparisons to other "well-known"
preachers, etc....

The decreasing volume of quality teachers combined with the near
absense of mentoring will always result in shallowness, shallowness of
preaching/teaching and shallowness of passion and ability to reach the lost....
even young preachers that have willingness to improve their ministry
(via prayer, study, etc) to a degree can only reach what their modeled
leadership has attained.... they are usually not prepared or equipped to
claim a greater anointing than their shepherd-leadership....

this one-time "Passing the Mantle" service of the Elders praying over the
young preachers for greaters ministries, anointing, etc can't replace the
absense of prayer/study/committment in the life of the younger minister,
nor replace the absense of mentoring and/or teaching invested in that
person by their leadership.... build on their existing foundation, most certainly....
but not in minutes give what it took years for those Elders to attain....

the "Passing the Mantle" service almost seemed like a one-time buy-out
for all the neglect thats taken place toward it's up-and-coming.... churches
that have ministry-mentoring programs in place (like Alex) are to be
commended as they are following a time-proven Biblical principle of
leadership that God will always honor and bless....

just throwing a dog-bone out there for folks to chew on....
Look at grasshopper go.
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I don't guess I'm really old enough to have heard some of the more phenomenal "teachers" in our movement, or maybe I just have ADD and can't remember the ones I've heard....
But the one that held my attention and always really blessed my heart is Bro. Crawford Coon. I heard him several times at Oklahoma Camp Meeting, tho I can't even tell you where he's from. lol
Still, I will never forget the day he taught about Joseph. Incredible...provokes much thought even years later.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:38 PM
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Preacher: Herald (public crier), especially of divine truth (the gospel)
Teacher: Instructor, doctor, master

According to Strong's, anyway....
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:46 PM
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Thanks for sharing that....

I remember back at JCM responding numerous times to the "Do you feel called to preach" question.... my response was always "Nope. I feel called to teach! And it's my hope that five years from now that I'm known more as a teacher than a preacher...." You would've been humored at all the weird looks I got....

Since then God has allowed me the opportunity at a few different cool things.... as of most recent, I've gotten the chance to teach the last 75+ weeks a Sunday morning adult SS class (45 minutes of teaching a clip).... next week, I'll be starting a new 12-week series on the book of Jonah....

God has been kind to me....
A teacher feels just as comfortable talking about his message one-on-one after the service.

A preacher just wants to talk to the pews with no one talking back.

A preacher looks for an Amen, a teacher looks for a student.

A preacher counts those filled with the Holy Ghost and baptized after they preach.

A teacher longs to learn from their student at some point down the road.

A preacher looks for instant results.

A teacher looks for lasting results.

A preacher will be quoted for the "Title of their sermon".

A teacher will be quoted as to the title of their book.

A preacher will be noted for their style.

A teacher will be noted for their insite.

Most preachers have a hard time learing new revelations.

Teachers are always first a student.

I could go on and on....

These are my own thoughts....
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I don't guess I'm really old enough to have heard some of the more phenomenal "teachers" in our movement, or maybe I just have ADD and can't remember the ones I've heard....
But the one that held my attention and always really blessed my heart is Bro. Crawford Coon. I heard him several times at Oklahoma Camp Meeting, tho I can't even tell you where he's from. lol
Still, I will never forget the day he taught about Joseph. Incredible...provokes much thought even years later.
He was one of the my teachers at JCM.... very good teacher....

if I consider my BC days.... I'd have to add Brett Cooley, Floyd Odom, Donald Tipton and Dannie Aber to that "teaching" list as well....
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:50 PM
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He was one of the my teachers at JCM.... very good teacher....

if I consider my BC days.... I'd have to add Brett Cooley, Floyd Odom, Donald Tipton and Dannie Aber to that "teaching" list as well....
Which one of your teachers started teaching it was ok to drink wine?
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Crawford Coon is who I was thinking of - I heard him teach at La Camp year ago and still remember his teaching. I think he is in Louisiana.
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Which one of your teachers started teaching it was ok to drink wine?
wouldn't know.... can't say that thought was ever taught during my time there....
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