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Old 09-11-2007, 02:54 PM
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Just as a sidenote... I have met the Father and the Son.
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Just as a sidenote... I have met the Father and the Son.
His Son posted on here for awhile..
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Steadfast, I share your love for Brother Grisham's teaching. Someone said he is long-winded, I say "who cares?"

Brother Littles' teaching (from UGST) captures my attention as well.

I know you said Apostolic teachers, but I love to hear Chuck Swindoll teach. Perry Stone is very good as well.
I'm the same on Bro. Grisham: who cares?!? He's incredible.

I heard Bro. Littles once and he did very well. Kind of had to 'stay on the trail' or you could lose him.
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I'm the same on Bro. Grisham: who cares?!? He's incredible.

I heard Bro. Littles once and he did very well. Kind of had to 'stay on the trail' or you could lose him.
Here's a thought...

Have we in Pentecost concentrated our efforts on Preaching so much we have created a Attention Disorder when it comes to teaching??
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He that hath the Son hath the Father also.
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I guess we could all run down a list of preachers that were great teachers.

JT Pugh is one of the best there ever was if you ask me.

but honestly I have long thought that there are many God called teachers that have never held a title of preacher on any level. They are none the less talented and anointed teachers.

My dad is the best teacher I ever heard. He never once preached a sermon or ever tried to mark himself as a minister on any level. But before dad started teaching new converts in the 1970's at the church back home, new converts were simply not sticking. after, retention was unbelievable.

I suspect that this is the norm in really good churches. I think we think the 5 fold ministry means preachers that are one or more of the 5.

I think there are a lot of men who meet the criteria for the "teacher" who are not preachers at all.
Absolute truth. I knew a man in Indiana that was a horrid preacher with a very uncomely disposition (name withheld for obvious reasons) but was a great Pastor due to one key factor: he was a great teacher who conveyed basic Apostolic doctrines with undisputable clarity.

He admitted he was not a good preacher and some folks didn't like his personality. But they loved his knowledge of the Bible.
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Were you at Conference when he taught against the "Divine Flesh" doctrine?

after that service he had meetings scheduled for two years..
Guess not... but I suspect it would be very interesting to say the least.
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Absolute truth. I knew a man in Indiana that was a horrid preacher with a very uncomely disposition (name withheld for obvious reasons) but was a great Pastor due to one key factor: he was a great teacher who conveyed basic Apostolic doctrines with undisputable clarity.

He admitted he was not a good preacher and some folks didn't like his personality. But they loved his knowledge of the Bible.
I really never thought that of Bro. Mooney myself - but he does have Bible knowledge!
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Here's a thought...

Have we in Pentecost concentrated our efforts on Preaching so much we have created a Attention Disorder when it comes to teaching??
A resounding 'yes' is in order here.

I've preached various Camps for years but this past year is the first time I've been the Bible Teacher at a camp. I have to admit that I really, really enjoyed it!

But, then again, I put a LOT of time into my studies and use PowerPoint and all the visuals, etc., when possible. My Church LOVES when I do 'series' teachings and, honestly, I do too. It take a lot more time to put the studies together (I do all my own stuff) but I can use one series for sometimes months at a time.
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