Can someone lie and not know they are lying?

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Years ago I had lunch with an HR person, that had hired me into a firm, after my first couple of weeks of work. It was the weirdest lunch I've pretty much ever had. Everything I brought up in conversation she had some kind of link to it. I mentioned my church, she said her and her husband had gotten married there (they had not), I mentioned a day care my son was attending and she knew the second grade teacher, named her, but she was not there.
She seemed sincere and would have been believable if I didn't really know it. I think she was just trying to find common ground, by was just making things up to get there. Weird I tell yeah!

Can people lie without even knowing they are lying?

No. A lie necessitates that you know that what you're saying is not true. Perhaps she was trying to find common ground (in an Al Gore "I discovered Love Canal" or "I invented the Internet" kind of way). There's one way to find out: ask her.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by tamor

But hey the Bible says "Jesus is coming soon" over two thousand years ago. It's all relevant.

That already took place..

[tamor]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

That already took place..

I'm talking about the second coming, Goofiness! oloroid

[Trouvere]

I know someone that makes up stories of when we were younger and
the events never happened.They expect you to agree with them too.
If you can't be truthful then saying nothing is best.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by tamor

I'm talking about the second coming, Goofiness! oloroid

...so am I..

[TRIPLE E]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Years ago I had lunch with an HR person, that had hired me into a firm, after my first couple of weeks of work. It was the weirdest lunch I've pretty much ever had. Everything I brought up in conversation she had some kind of link to it. I mentioned my church, she said her and her husband had gotten married there (they had not), I mentioned a day care my son was attending and she knew the second grade teacher, named her, but she was not there.
She seemed sincere and would have been believable if I didn't really know it. I think she was just trying to find common ground, by was just making things up to get there. Weird I tell yeah!

Can people lie without even knowing they are lying?

I know of a couple that one night after prayer meeting came to their pastor ,crying telling the pastor to stay with the church which at the time were going thru difficulty and 3 months later told the pastor that he and his wife had never said any such thing ,that the pastor was lying.Hopefully for the man in question he was lying without even knowing he was.

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I believe someone can be that possessed of a lying spirit that they do not realize they lie.

I think so also - it is second nature to them and they do it without even thinking. I think some people honestly believe their own lies!!!

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Chan

No. A lie necessitates that you know that what you're saying is not true. Perhaps she was trying to find common ground (in an Al Gore "I discovered Love Canal" or "I invented the Internet" kind of way). There's one way to find out: ask her.

If someone teaches heresy but believes they are teaching the truth are they liars or heretics or both?

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Can they be possessed of a lying spirit and still be possessed of the Holy Ghost?

I personally do not think so.

[Falla39]

The Bible states that..... no lie is of the truth. (I John 2:21)

I believe a person can be mistaken and if they

are not sure, they should say, "I could be mistaken, but

if I read correctly, thus and so...! But to deliberately tell

something that is untrue is a lie, plain and simple.

Blessings,

Falla39