Republican leaders voting Hillary?

[n david]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

He is not longer giving or supporting PP, so he has quit doing that, while she is still in engaging in fully supporting PP.

You know this as fact, or just think he isn't? The man hasn't released his tax returns, so you can't say for fact he isn't. He has in the past, and even in this race has talked about how great PP is. I would bet he IS still supporting them.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Lets all flame people who are not so blinded by party loyalty, that they will vote in that idiot trump. Give me a break. You are right. They are not true GOPers. They are patriots.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

We understand that the orange clown is not Jesus, not even close.
However he is ten times better than Hellary.

He is not longer giving or supporting PP, so he has quit doing that, while she is still in engaging in fully supporting PP.

While Hillary definitely has her issues (she's no angel), she can boast that she:

- Served as First Lady of Arkansas
- Served as First Lady of the United States
- Served as Senator of New York
- Served as Secretary of State

Also she can boast that she:

- Was instrumental in pushing SCHIP through to insure over 8 million children.
- Tirelessly fought for first responders to receive necessary care after the 9/11 tragedy.
- Fought for families of deployed military personnel to receive Family Medical Leave.

While there are questions about Hillary Clinton, she can boast of being on the front lines of policies that have indeed helped many millions of Americans.

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Lets all flame people who are not so blinded by party loyalty, that they will vote in that idiot trump. Give me a break. You are right. They are not true GOPers. They are patriots.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

While Hillary definitely has her issues (she's no angel), she can boast that she:

- Served as First Lady of Arkansas
- Served as First Lady of the United States
- Served as Senator of New York
- Served as Secretary of State

First lady of Arkansas? How is that an accomplishment? FLOTUS? How is that an accomplishment, either? Senator? She barely did anything as Senator, not to mention that she only moved to New York so she could run as Senator there. Why didn't she run for Senate from Arkansas? Could it be, because she knew she would lose?

As for her position as SoS....well, let's recount.

Benghazi.
Lying to the people. Lying about the video. Possible gun running through the embassy. Kept the rescue crew on the ground for hours, changing uniforms FOUR TIMES, so in the end they were unable to rescue those soldiers or the ambassador. Lied about the families (claiming she never told them a false story about the video).

E-mail
Kept an unsecured, private server. Something not allowed, nor was done by any other SoS. Deleted 30,000 e-mails before turning the rest over to investigators, claiming they were "personal". 15,000 of those have been recovered from the recipients, and they were not personal e-mails. That alone is a federal crime, and worthy of serving time in jail. She impeded a federal investigation, destroyed evidence and lied to investigators.

Add to that, she allowed her staff (who had no need to know) to transfer confidential information onto her private e-mail server from the in-house system used by the government. She claims she had no idea (C) stood for confidential/classified. You said you've served, so answer me this. Do you think any other person would have got away, with allowing classified information to be accessed by unauthorized personnel? She didn't even get so much as a slap on the wrist.

Also add to that, the evidence that Hillary engaged in "pay for play" activity as SoS. A fact which she tried to hide, by having her own private server, so she could bypass FOI requests. It's also recently come out, that Bill got an "honorary Chancellor" position, to the tune of $17,600,000 (over the course of 5 years), right after the school met with Hillary as SoS. Tell me, what is an "honorary Chancellor", and why is that position worth so much money?

More than half the people she met with as SoS, were contributors to their Clinton Crime Family Foundation. It's blatant money laundering at the highest levels of our government, but you're okay with that, because she supported some welfare programs that you like.

Also she can boast that she:

- Was instrumental in pushing SCHIP through to insure over 8 million children.
- Tirelessly fought for first responders to receive necessary care after the 9/11 tragedy.
- Fought for families of deployed military personnel to receive Family Medical Leave.

While there are questions about Hillary Clinton, she can boast of being on the front lines of policies that have indeed helped many millions of Americans.

Ask the people of Haiti, how they feel about the Clintons. Especially Bill, who served on a board overseeing the "reconstruction" of Haiti after an earthquake, where most of that money went to Clinton donors (and this, again, while Hillary was SoS).

So, she does the occasional "feel good" legislation, that's supposed to polish up her image. However, when you're trying to polish feces, all you manage to do is spread it around. That's the Clintons in a nutshell.

Here, I did a search for you, and you can read some more for yourself.

http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.co...amily-exposed/

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...and-mafia-meet

http://politistick.com/tag/clinton-c...ly-foundation/

http://endingthefed.com/the-big-news...oundation.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cli...istory/5527943

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

First lady of Arkansas? How is that an accomplishment? FLOTUS? How is that an accomplishment, either? Senator? She barely did anything as Senator, not to mention that she only moved to New York so she could run as Senator there. Why didn't she run for Senate from Arkansas? Could it be, because she knew she would lose?

As for her position as SoS....well, let's recount.

Benghazi.
Lying to the people. Lying about the video. Possible gun running through the embassy. Kept the rescue crew on the ground for hours, changing uniforms FOUR TIMES, so in the end they were unable to rescue those soldiers or the ambassador. Lied about the families (claiming she never told them a false story about the video).

E-mail
Kept an unsecured, private server. Something not allowed, nor was done by any other SoS. Deleted 30,000 e-mails before turning the rest over to investigators, claiming they were "personal". 15,000 of those have been recovered from the recipients, and they were not personal e-mails. That alone is a federal crime, and worthy of serving time in jail. She impeded a federal investigation, destroyed evidence and lied to investigators.

Add to that, she allowed her staff (who had no need to know) to transfer confidential information onto her private e-mail server from the in-house system used by the government. She claims she had no idea (C) stood for confidential/classified. You said you've served, so answer me this. Do you think any other person would have got away, with allowing classified information to be accessed by unauthorized personnel? She didn't even get so much as a slap on the wrist.

Also add to that, the evidence that Hillary engaged in "pay for play" activity as SoS. A fact which she tried to hide, by having her own private server, so she could bypass FOI requests. It's also recently come out, that Bill got an "honorary Chancellor" position, to the tune of $17,600,000 (over the course of 5 years), right after the school met with Hillary as SoS. Tell me, what is an "honorary Chancellor", and why is that position worth so much money?

More than half the people she met with as SoS, were contributors to their Clinton Crime Family Foundation. It's blatant money laundering at the highest levels of our government, but you're okay with that, because she supported some welfare programs that you like.



Ask the people of Haiti, how they feel about the Clintons. Especially Bill, who served on a board overseeing the "reconstruction" of Haiti after an earthquake, where most of that money went to Clinton donors (and this, again, while Hillary was SoS).

So, she does the occasional "feel good" legislation, that's supposed to polish up her image. However, when you're trying to polish feces, all you manage to do is spread it around. That's the Clintons in a nutshell.

Here, I did a search for you, and you can read some more for yourself.

http://www.clintonmemoriallibrary.co...amily-exposed/

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...and-mafia-meet

http://politistick.com/tag/clinton-c...ly-foundation/

http://endingthefed.com/the-big-news...oundation.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cli...istory/5527943

I never claimed Hillary was a saint. But you never answered the question.

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

First lady of Arkansas? How is that an accomplishment?

Prior to being First Lady of Arkansas, Bill Clinton was elected as Attorney General of Arkansas. Hillary joined what is now the Rose Law Firm in 1977. She was the first woman partner of that firm by 1979. In 1977, she founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. This non-profit organization was founded to research, educate on and rethink children’s issues.

As First Lady of Arkansas, Hillary's activities included chairing the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, continuing work with Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families and serving on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services and the Children's Defense Fund. She was also a member of corporate board of directors for TCBY, Wal-Mart and Lafarge. From 1987 to 1991 she chaired the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession. While Chair of the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, Clinton fought for teacher raises and mandatory competency tests for new and working teachers while chair of this committee. She was behind the effort to develop the state’s first set of statewide curricular standards in the 1980s. Hillary championed the Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth (HIPPY). This sent teachers into the homes of underprivileged families to train parents in school preparedness and literacy. This program became a model for other states. According to Hillary Clinton, "HIPPY was designed to bring families, organizations and communities together regardless of limited financial resources or educational barriers. Through the program, parents learned the importance of talking to and reading to their children. Today, there are currently 146 HIPPY sites in 25 states and Washington D.C. serving nearly 16,000 children."

FLOTUS? How is that an accomplishment, either?

This link will list in what capacity Hillary served as First Lady and what some of her accomplishments were:

http://www.firstladies.org/biographi...x?biography=43

Senator? She barely did anything as Senator, not to mention that she only moved to New York so she could run as Senator there. Why didn't she run for Senate from Arkansas? Could it be, because she knew she would lose?

Some accomplishments as NY Senator:

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...-senate-career

One thing touches my family personally. She tirelessly pushed for legislation to expand healthcare coverage for first responders who were injured on 9/11. My ex-cousin-in-law served as a first responder on 9/11. He as suffered health problems related to that fateful day in September 2001. It is through the dedicated efforts of Hillary Clinton that Chuck received the long term health care that he needs. Her efforts have helped hundreds (if not over a 1,000) of 9/11 first responders like Chuck.

As for her position as SoS....well, let's recount.

No one ever mentions "Bush's Benghazi'"s:

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Hillary only has one "Benghazi".

However, I believe that in about 50 years there will be a PBS Frontline special about Benghazi and everything that they can't tell us about it right now. I think things will make more sense when everything is known about it.

Besides, Fox News admits that Benghazi is just smoke and mirrors:

Fox News Shocks America & Admits Benghazi Investigation Was Complete Hoax (DETAILS)http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07/...-hoax-details/

E-mail
Kept an unsecured, private server. Something not allowed, nor was done by any other SoS. Deleted 30,000 e-mails before turning the rest over to investigators, claiming they were "personal". 15,000 of those have been recovered from the recipients, and they were not personal e-mails. That alone is a federal crime, and worthy of serving time in jail. She impeded a federal investigation, destroyed evidence and lied to investigators.

Add to that, she allowed her staff (who had no need to know) to transfer confidential information onto her private e-mail server from the in-house system used by the government. She claims she had no idea (C) stood for confidential/classified. You said you've served, so answer me this. Do you think any other person would have got away, with allowing classified information to be accessed by unauthorized personnel? She didn't even get so much as a slap on the wrist.

I was surprised at that too. But again, I'm thinking there are things about this that we don't know. Those in authority reviewed the evidence and let it slid. So, that's the breaks. She's been cleared of "wrong doing", although procedurally they probably will not tolerate it happening again.

Also add to that, the evidence that Hillary engaged in "pay for play" activity as SoS. A fact which she tried to hide, by having her own private server, so she could bypass FOI requests. It's also recently come out, that Bill got an "honorary Chancellor" position, to the tune of $17,600,000 (over the course of 5 years), right after the school met with Hillary as SoS. Tell me, what is an "honorary Chancellor", and why is that position worth so much money?

She's not the first to do all that. Do you realize we'd probably not even have a functioning government if we went after politicians who did these things? Is it corrupt? Yes. Unheard of? Nope.

Ask the people of Haiti, how they feel about the Clintons. Especially Bill, who served on a board overseeing the "reconstruction" of Haiti after an earthquake, where most of that money went to Clinton donors (and this, again, while Hillary was SoS).

I'm not all that familiar with this issue. I could Google it, but I'll take your word for it. Sounds like some corruption there. No politician is absolutely clean.... except my man, Sen. Bernie Sanders. But he didn't win. lol

So, she does the occasional "feel good" legislation, that's supposed to polish up her image. However, when you're trying to polish feces, all you manage to do is spread it around. That's the Clintons in a nutshell.

Her contributions to making SCHIP a reality greatly benefited my step-daughter who was covered under those provisions and received the health care she desperately needed. They say millions of children (perhaps as many as 8 million) have benefited from this initiative.

But you never answered my questions:

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

[Aquila]

Hillary has been active in politics for over 30 years. There's plenty of good and bad to dig up on her. But what about Trump?

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

[n david]

Regarding "Bush's Benghazi's" -- not even comparable to Hillary's Benghazi.

First Ambassador killed since 1979.

The massive amount of cover up which happened to try and pretend it was not a terrorist attack is incredible.

One of the major reasons to vote against Hillary is because of her "experience," not to mention the tsunami of scandals and death which she leaves behind.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Hillary has been active in politics for over 30 years. There's plenty of good and bad to dig up on her. But what about Trump?

If Trump is better than Hillary I'd like to ask:

- What public office has he held?
- What has he done for the American people?

Not a Trump supporter, but...

1) He hasn't worked as a gubbamint employee at all. Yuge plus right there. Last thing we need is another federal parasite.
2) He has given them hope that maybe we can break free of the globalist stranglehold on our nation.

Will he be a dud? Who knows? With Cankles we're going off the rails fo sho. With Cankles there very well may not BE an America to worry about.

With Trump, we get a little more time for the smart people to brace for impact. With Cankles it's impact in t minus 130 odd days. Got milk?