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Old 05-31-2007, 10:03 AM
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Moving "forward"?????

Hopefully this hasn't been discussed. I am almost thru with the Forward. A buddy of mine gave me his copy and I have had a hard time putting it down.

I wasn't to impressed with the layout. It was all the articles FOR changes then the one long article AGAINST. I wish they would have gone back and forth. Also the FOR stance was divided into separate essay's while the AGAINST was one long huge compilation. It was harder to read IMO.


The FOR side was very thorough in thier statistics. I thought they were represented well although it seemed they all just said the same thing over and over. But they stuck to thier guns.

The AGAINST side played many cards of which some were concerning. They said:

"If a still picture and the name of the church and pastor were flashed on the screen, and it would all stop at this point, there might be little opposition."


"The UPCI's stated position on this matterhas greatly helped ouor pastors as they taught their people to refrain from owning a television"


"Communicating the apostolic distinctives of Jesus Name Baptism, the essentiality of the H.G. and holiness are the only motivation for a television ministry. Would those distinctives attract an audience? Probably not. They are too theological, biblical, doctrinal."


"(They) are assuming we will continue embracing Internet usage......."

any thoughts?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:14 AM
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I think the UC's will get their way this fall. As usual.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:15 AM
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I think the UC's will get their way this fall. As usual.
Loosing interest more and more......(see divorce thread)
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:17 AM
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My thoughts are that television is already a fact of life in the UPC. Pastors have it. Certainly a large number of saints have it. Board members have it. SS teachers have it. Youth leaders have it. Outreach directors have it and so do music ministry leaders.

Have to learn to deal with it. Have to learn to control it. Have to learn how to use it and make an avenue of reaching out to the lost with the Gospel if one has that desire.

As far as it being a tool of evangelism it is to a certain extent. Not the most effective as far as I'm concerned but it's one more method along with all the others.

I don't think that an affirming vote for Res. 6 says in any way shape or form that an OK or a *thumbs up* is being given to the medium being a positive influence, because for the most part it is not a good influence. The promotion of ungodliness and wickedness is an onslaught on my eyes and ears for the most part..

I understand the concerns and the reluctance to vote for the Resolution, but the fact is it's already a fact. Like it or not. Have to deal with that.
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I think the UC's will get their way this fall. As usual.
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Loosing interest more and more......(see divorce thread)
You lost me there pardner. What were you trying to say in this post?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:21 AM
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I never have cared for the Forward. Not much to it. I just like to see whose in and whose out.
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My thoughts....

Seems whoever the author was of the statement..."Communicating the apostolic distinctives of Jesus Name Baptism, the essentiality of the H.G. and holiness are the only motivation for a television ministry. Would those distinctives attract an audience? Probably not." thinks our "message" and "truth" is not attractive. WOW! Our doctrine and living a holy life...not attractive?? Why is this person preaching or a minister?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:23 AM
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You lost me there pardner. What were you trying to say in this post?
Just saying that after reading the Forward and the AGAINST side I am loosing interest in the things that UC's promote on many fronts.

Its not about churches or people its about the Big Boys club and who can out politic the other. Its about peer pressure and the preacher down the street. Look at how infiltrated TV is in the congregation.

In reference to your divorce thread I'm finding more irreconcilable differences.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:32 AM
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Just saying that after reading the Forward and the AGAINST side I am loosing interest in the things that UC's promote on many fronts.

Its not about churches or people its about the Big Boys club and who can out politic the other. Its about peer pressure and the preacher down the street. Look at how infiltrated TV is in the congregation.

In reference to your divorce thread I'm finding more irreconcilable differences.
I wonder who else is???
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