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07-06-2013, 01:34 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by KWSS1976
The little indiscrpencys in GZ story are not big enough to amount to anything JD other Prosecutors and Defense Lawyers have already stated that and the fact that he has taken self defense classes mean nothing, cause his resume stated he wanted to be a Defense Lawyer and not a "Wana be cop"
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I have already provided a link on this same thread showing where the defendant applied to be a Police Officer, and was turned down.
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07-06-2013, 01:38 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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I guess the entire neighborhood was "profiling."
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It wouldn't be the first time, it won't be the last time, it doesn't make it the right thing to do and it is PREPOSTEROUS to use this logic excuse the killing of an unarmed 17 year old who felt threatened by the actions and demeanor of the self-appointed neighborhood watch.
Racial profiling is the same thing as racial prejudice. Conversely, racial prejudice is not the same thing as racism.
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07-06-2013, 01:40 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
Thats great he was turned down, so whattttttt, have you even been watching the case and all the evidence, the Prosecution tried to use that against GZ and they still failed at it, specially when you get a Prosecution Detective witness up there that states he believes GZ was telling the truth, the Judge threw that out but the Jury still heard it and believe me it stuck....even though the Judge told the Jury to diregard that statement, they still heard it..
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07-06-2013, 01:47 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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Thats great he was turned down, so whattttttt, have you even been watching the case and all the evidence, the Prosecution tried to use that against GZ and they still failed at it, specially when you get a Prosecution Detective witness up there that states he believes GZ was telling the truth..
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Yes I have, but I work during the day and cannot watch the entire case, frame by frame, as everything unfolds.
Instead of getting frustrated, try addressing the ideas I have brought up.
This case, isn't about me.
This case is about a dead 17 year old and a neighborhood watch guy who was trained to follow, but not to confront.
I have brought up questions on this thread that will likely not be asked of the defendant-- but if they ever were to be asked during this trial, we'd get a better picture of the defendant and what happened that night.
Furthermore, I doubt he was trained to carry his weapon while performing his duties as neighborhood watch-- I know the national neighborhood watch association teaches against this.
Which is probably why he didn't seek to officially codify his standing as neighborhood watch through an established and reputable organization.
I don't think he had the intent of killing the first potential intruder he saw when he left his apartment to go to Target that Sunday night.
I do think he was aggressive beyond the scope of duty for a neighborhood watch and his actions should not be protected by our laws.
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07-06-2013, 01:55 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
Sit down and watch the case from start to the point at were it is now, then come and talk. If you watch the case from start to where it is now, I fill you will come to the conclusion that GZ did not confront TM till TM said something to him..Zimmerman did not know were TM was and was walking back to his truck when TM said something to him,its at that point we don't know what happened, but all I can tell you is GZ has injuries showing TM was working him over good and he feared for his life which was all it takes in FL...
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07-06-2013, 01:59 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
It makes no sense that GZ started the fight cause he was the one with the gun.. If I have a gun on me and start a fight I will be using my gun to do the fighting not my fist, so why start something I know I have the abilty to stop real quick...
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07-06-2013, 02:17 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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No he did not.
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The teacher said that the textbook for his class was not specific to FL law, but was general and broad; FL SYG laws were not in the textbook. SYG is not the correct term, or the name of the law - it's a nickname. It's actually called "Castle Doctrine."
Based on that testimony, there is no reason to assume that GZ lied when he said he was not familiar with FL's SYG law. Perhaps the television reporter should have asked if GZ was familiar with FL's Castle Doctrine laws. GZ may have answered yes to that question.
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07-06-2013, 02:18 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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The demonstrations surrounding the Trayvon Martin tragedy are widespread, racially and regionally diverse, and not organized by one specific entity.
There are many, many people who agree with me with the following two points.
"Self defense" is not a valid legal argument to kill someone when you are the aggressor.
Racial profiling played a role in the death of this 17 year old.
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TM was the aggressor. That is what the facts show
He was a 17 year old in a hoodie cutting between houses. His skin color is irrelevant. He looked suspicious to a NW whose neighborhood had been broken into several times
When someone is sitting on you pummeling away at you, self defense is valid.
There was a witness
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07-06-2013, 02:20 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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The concern and outrage over the fact that the defendant was not jailed (initially) for this murder was widespread, and not stoked by any one person.
Instead, it was a sense of moral outrage-- a sense that was shared by literally thousands and more of human beings worldwide.
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It was stoked by irresponsible media coverage
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07-06-2013, 02:22 PM
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Re: George Zimmerman Trial Live Streaming
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No, I don't recognize the media as one specific entity.
Al Sharpton had nothing to do with the VAST MAJORITY of the demonstrations I provided links to. Will you check them out and stop making anyone who speaks out against anything race-related to be the stepson of satan?
If you think the media is "one-entity", then maybe you'd like to limit the freedom of our press to report the news, to make people aware, and to raise questions when things are not clear.
Riots = Terrorism?
Just as the word, "love" is overused in our society, so is the word "terrorism".
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Al Sharpton and the Media contributed to the misconception of the general public
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