What the World Sees as Apostolic

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Carroll Martin was not able to keep his testimony on trusting God for hid healing but he did lay sick for over a year and if you knew him then you know the agonies he suffered. I do not excuse him but he did not fall into sin. He fell because of a stand on divine healing.

Elder ... I hope you are not suggesting because this man got gravely sick somehow he was not trusting God ... we will all die of something .... sickness is a result of sin in all of us ....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I remember this happening as a kid raised in the Chicago area. I believe my father was presbyter of the section that this pastor was in! They had spritual spouses which they had human sex with!

CH was NOT a con in any sense of the word. II met several of those folks who survived and their children were destroyed some of them went with him after they had traded wives. So being strict is not the criteria for being a pervert. Thsi man commanded his own wife to have sex with another man while he watched. A pervert all the way. Yet before he went nuts he had around 400 solid people that were extremely loyal to him.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Elder ... I hope you are not suggesting because this man got gravely sick somehow he was not trusting God ... we will all die of something .... sickness is a result of sin in all of us ....

No they preached against going to the doctor they had their babies at home, pulled their own teeth. This man got sick and died a horrible death it si so gross I cannot even post it on here. But after about a year of living in pure Hell went gave in and went to the hospital and died less than 36 hours. He died repenting he had went after preaching this for years and having a cementary full of young mothers and babies who had died in child birth. I believe the man was saved but everything he had stood for he lost personally because of this. They mended broken bones, sewed up wounds with fishing line they really practiced this. I think the whole thing is foolish however they did it. And only a very few preachers that preached this died their testimony Elder Roy Rowley was one.

[Thad]

Didn't something like this Happen in Indiana a few Years back ???
I can't remember the morbid details but I remember some weird things going on. All I can remember was it was Absolutley unthinkable behind all understanding

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Thad

Didn't something like this Happen in Indiana a few Years back ???
I can't remember the morbid details but I remember some weird things going on. All I can remember was it was Absolutley unthinkable behind all understanding

Yep.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yep.

refresh my memory on this incident please

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Would you please elaborate on the bolded?

Without my commentary, read Gal 5:16 through the end of the chapter. Try reading it without traditional ultra con interpretation while remaining in context with the previous two chapters. My own commentary means little to nothing. It is just another opinion among many.

[Glenda B]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Carroll Martin was not able to keep his testimony on trusting God for hid healing but he did lay sick for over a year and if you knew him then you know the agonies he suffered. I do not excuse him but he did not fall into sin. He fell because of a stand on divine healing.

It sounds like you men are all to familiar with New Bethel, and
The Valley Of The Kings.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.

It sounds like you men are all to familiar with New Bethel, and
The Valley Of The Kings.

I am very familiar with the area.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Thad

refresh my memory on this incident please

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