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Old 05-20-2007, 12:52 AM
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my definition of apostolic

one who believes in fulfilling John 3:5 and Acts 2:38, whether they believe it takes all three to be saved, or it is necessary to fulfill all three because you are already saved!

If they fulfill the plan they are Apostolic.

Everything else is subjective, as far as this guy is concerned!!
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:53 AM
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There is a lot of circular reasoning in religion. lol

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Perhaps. But it seems to me that if no definition of "apostolic" is acceptable then we have curcular reasoning.
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Rev. Run made waves when he became a christian. His pastor calls himself an apostle. Rev. Run's pastor is on late night television offereing free prophecies to whomever calls in. I'm quite certain Rev. Run's pastor has not been baptized in Jesus name. Rev Run's pastor considers himself an apostolic. The definition of apostolic is based on speculation and through the prisms we want to use when defining apostolic.

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one who believes in fulfilling John 3:5 and Acts 2:38, whether they believe it takes all three to be saved, or it is necessary to fulfill all three because you are already saved!

If they fulfill the plan they are Apostolic.

Everything else is subjective, as far as this guy is concerned!!
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Rev. Run made waves when he became a christian. His pastor calls himself an apostle. Rev. Run's pastor is on late night television offereing free prophecies to whomever calls in.
what does that have to do with what I said?
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I had to finish the post.. sometimes I hit enter too soon.
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what does that have to do with what I said?
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:01 AM
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Rev. Run made waves when he became a christian. His pastor calls himself an apostle. Rev. Run's pastor is on late night television offereing free prophecies to whomever calls in. I'm quite certain Rev. Run's pastor has not been baptized in Jesus name. Rev Run's pastor considers himself an apostolic. The definition of apostolic is based on speculation and through the prisms we want to use when defining apostolic.
well.. he is not apostolic according to this guy!
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:08 AM
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But he is an apostle (Goes by Bishop Jordan I do believe) according to his definition. This problem happens often when people try to use subjective terms to identifie a work.



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well.. he is not apostolic according to this guy!
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But he is an apostle (Goes by Bishop Jordan I do believe) according to his definition. This problem happens often when people try to use subjective terms to identifie a work.
well... at least my definition includes conservative and liberal PAJC and PCI!!
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Is that smoke you are blowing out your icon? SUch symbolism. LOL

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well... at least my definition includes conservative and liberal PAJC and PCI!!
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Is that smoke you are blowing out your icon? SUch symbolism. LOL
smoke?? you mean the guys SHADOW???
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