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Old 11-27-2007, 08:51 AM
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Presidential Election

I thought we used to have a politics section, but I guess we don't. Who do you think is going to win the next Presidential election? It's still pretty early, but speculation is always fun. I think that Clinton is probably going to be the Democratic nominee, and think thay Guliani is going to be the GOP nominee. Personally, I am pulling for Ron Paul.
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Old 11-27-2007, 08:52 AM
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I must admit I am enjoying seeing Hillary somewhat in trouble times...

I don't know if she is as safe as she was...
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Old 11-27-2007, 08:57 AM
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I must admit I am enjoying seeing Hillary somewhat in trouble times...

I don't know if she is as safe as she was...
you aint seen the trouble that will be coming down the pike if this socialist gets elected, so far no matter how ugly nothing sticks to her, kind of like billy, dt
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this election will be pivotal in our history, the next president will be appointing at least two and maybe three supreme court justices, that will shape the country for the rest of my lifetime, i beleive we should all carefully consider ours and our childrens future when we choose, dt
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:09 AM
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Hillary is in trouble in Iowa.

Nationally she is leading by a pretty wide margine but Iowa has a way of changing things.

If Obama wins in Iowa where Hillary has really worked hard, it changes the dynamic of the race on the Democrat side.

For the Repbublicans, Iowa is a little different. Rudy has stayed away from Iowa so there is no real gage on the impact Iowa will have on him. At this point Romney is the front runner there but Huckabee is closing in on him. If Huckabee wins Iowa, I think Romney is sunk and this becomes a Rudy/Huckabee race. If Romney wins then it is Rudy/Romney.


One of these 5 will be the next president.

For the Dems Hillary has the highest negatives of anyone who has ever run for President. That is a very steep hill.

For Obama, he is very inexperienced and has been mistake prone, and African American. These are the two biggest things working against him.

For Mitt, he has been both for and against conservitiave positions, is a morman, and is a republican in a time where there is strong sentiment aginst the republcian party.

Rudy is seen by the conservitives and the Christian Right as being something other than what they (me) are. Besides being a Republcian, Rudy runs the risk of causing the Republican wing of the Republican party to stay home and not vote.

Huckabee will be painted as TOO Christian. He has also been soft on emmigration, and not quite as conservitive as some have thought. While he is too "Republican" to win the moderates in a time when many independant voters are turned off to Republcians; he is also not quite conservitive to jazz the base. he also has the lowest "Celebrity" appeal of any of the major candidates and I think may stand the least chance of winning (and this is the guy I am voting for).

I think the winner will be the one that the people think is the "lest bad" instead of the best option.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:14 AM
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I think the winner will be the one that the people think is the "lest bad" instead of the best option.
I think the winner will be that. It is sad that we have mainly a 2 party election. Technically, we have had larger elections, but the third parties haven't stood a chance of winning. I guess I am going to be "throwing" my vote away with Paul, but he is the only candidate that I do not have to hold my nose to vote for.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:17 AM
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I think the winner will be that. It is sad that we have mainly a 2 party election. Technically, we have had larger elections, but the third parties haven't stood a chance of winning. I guess I am going to be "throwing" my vote away with Paul, but he is the only candidate that I do not have to hold my nose to vote for.
Ron Paul isnt my kind of guy for president at all. First he is more liberatarian than republican and I still believe in limited government instead of anarchy.

RPs ideas of what the constitution is, are vastly different than my own. i dont like RP, I dont thin he can get elected and I think he would be as bad for America as a democrat for vertually the opposite reasons.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:23 AM
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Ron Paul isnt my kind of guy for president at all. First he is more liberatarian than republican and I still believe in limited government instead of anarchy.

RPs ideas of what the constitution is, are vastly different than my own. i dont like RP, I dont thin he can get elected and I think he would be as bad for America as a democrat for vertually the opposite reasons.
Ron Paul isn't an anarchist. He simply wants more state-level government and less Federal government. That wouldn't be a bad thing. As far as the constitution, he just interpets it fairly literally.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:44 AM
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Ron Paul isn't an anarchist. He simply wants more state-level government and less Federal government. That wouldn't be a bad thing. As far as the constitution, he just interpets it fairly literally.
I disagree with your assessment. Others do as well. I believe in Orriginal intent, however, RP acts for all intents and purposes that nothing happened after 1810. PR may see himself as Jeffersonian, but i assure you that Madison would not view RP as a postive influence.

RPs view of Americas place in the Global economy boarders on Isolationist and that will simply not work.

RPs view of the roll of Governemnt goes too far. RP may give lip service to the constitution but he and the Federalist papers seem to be at odds.
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I think the winner will be that. It is sad that we have mainly a 2 party election. Technically, we have had larger elections, but the third parties haven't stood a chance of winning. I guess I am going to be "throwing" my vote away with Paul, but he is the only candidate that I do not have to hold my nose to vote for.
It almost always comes down to that. Most of the best people are just too smart to get into this game, and that's sad.

Does Ron Paul still say the U.S. provoked and deserved 9/11? His exchange with Rudy a few months back filled me with contempt for the guy. No offense, but when you join forces with Rosie O'Donnell and OBL you don't even need to be thinking about running for any U.S. office.

Ward Churchill got fired for taking RP's position on 9/11.
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