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11-26-2007, 10:10 AM
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Suicide... Where Do They Stand?
Suicide where do they stand?
I have always heard it preached that if you committed suicide you automatically went to hell. The concept being you murdered yourself and you couldn’t repent.
Is there really any scripture on this?
My pastor mentioned Sunday morning that a former member of our church had committed suicide the night before Thanksgiving. He asked could he have helped her more when she would come and talk to him? Are there others sitting beside us that are in a similar situation and we are not aware of their needs?
It is a very sobering thought.
This person was a close friend of mine. A prayer partner that had just called me a couple of weeks prior with a special prayer request. A situation that had to do with her daughter and someone in the church. So WHY didn’t she call me! She told me that her and her daughter prayed for me every night before they went to bed. She was an older mother and was extremely protective of her daughter.
My mind is boggled over how can a prayer warrior get to this point?
Are there others around me that I am not sensitive enough in the spirit to see they need help?
This is two deaths close to me in a two week period. Not a good holiday!
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11-26-2007, 10:11 AM
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There are many factors to this ... Would God condemn a person who does so because of mental illness or under the influence of prescribed medication?
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11-26-2007, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
There are many factors to this ... Would God condemn a person who does so because of mental illness or under the influence of prescribed medication?
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MY opinion is no.
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11-26-2007, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
There are many factors to this ... Would God condemn a person who does so because of mental illness or under the influence of prescribed medication?
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It's my testimony based on my own personal experience being in the depths of depression that he will not do so, that his love is abounding. God knows where we're at, and sometimes I wonder if we don't underestimate his love because we base it on human love, which can be so fickle. God's love is constant, unchanging, a rock.
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11-26-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry
It's my testimony based on my own personal experience being in the depths of depression that he will not do so, that his love is abounding. God knows where we're at, and sometimes I wonder if we don't underestimate his love because we base it on human love, which can be so fickle. God's love is constant, unchanging, a rock.
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I agree with this
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11-26-2007, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry
It's my testimony based on my own personal experience being in the depths of depression that he will not do so, that his love is abounding. God knows where we're at, and sometimes I wonder if we don't underestimate his love because we base it on human love, which can be so fickle. God's love is constant, unchanging, a rock.
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Well said, Sib!
One thing I know, "there is a God, and we are not He".
"He knows our frame, that we a dust".
He does not add insult to injury. He is the Creator, He is responsible for humanity. He is the potter, we are the clay.
Most understanding of Hell is screwed up royally!
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11-27-2007, 08:54 AM
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I think when you know a person that has a tendency to be depressed and always pulls out of it, you can let your guard slip.
Normally she is excited for the holidays.
Being a single Mom that barely makes it from payday to payday is much more stressful than most of us realize.
I am extremely concerned for her young daughter.
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
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11-27-2007, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Esther
I think when you know a person that has a tendency to be depressed and always pulls out of it, you can let your guard slip.
Normally she is excited for the holidays.
Being a single Mom that barely makes it from payday to payday is much more stressful than most of us realize.
I am extremely concerned for her young daughter.
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As you should be suicide tends to be contagious to the children of adults who do this...how old is this little one? Does she know her mom did this or does she just think her mom died...
Its really too bad her mom did not think of her before she took her life. This child now has a lot of rejection to deal with, hurt, anger. I hope they get her to a very good child psychiatrist to deal with her feelings about this. She may well feel it was the burden of taking care of her that casued her mom to do this....if she is a teen she is even at higher risk...I hope you can infulence those around her to take care of her in this way!
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11-27-2007, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Well said, Sib!
One thing I know, "there is a God, and we are not He".
"He knows our frame, that we a dust".
He does not add insult to injury. He is the Creator, He is responsible for humanity. He is the potter, we are the clay.
Most understanding of Hell is screwed up royally!
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LOL! Somehow, I just knew you were going to be a part of this discussion.
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11-26-2007, 07:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
There are many factors to this ... Would God condemn a person who does so because of mental illness or under the influence of prescribed medication?
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All suicides under some influence.
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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