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Old 02-23-2007, 01:19 AM
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What's The Difference ?

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ?

What Is The Difference Between

Open Sin
VS
Hidden Sin ?

Evangelistly Speaking
VS
Plain Out Lying ?

Giving More Than Possible
VS
Giving 110% ?

A Sexual Indescretion
VS
Plain Out Adultery ?

Dating A Woman While She Is STILL Legally Married
VS
Dating Someone Else's Wife ?

Watching T V
VS
Watching a Video ?

Watching A Video
VS
Watching A Movie ?

Tithing On Net Income
VS
Stealing ?

" L.W."
VS
" R.N." ?

" B.B."
VS
" F.H." ?

Or
" G.G. " telling everyone at the Mississippi Campmeeting
That " BORAT " Has Just Recieved The 'HOLY GHOST'
VS
Being A FALSE PROPHET ?



{just curious I guess}
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:51 AM
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In all fairness, the 'G.G.' you speak of was not intentionally lying but responding to a man that, from all outward appearances, received the Holy Ghost just like many others that same night. Yes, he did talk in tongues... albeit one he created to sound like a spiritual manifestation.

He, 'Borat' himself, was the only 'liar' in that situation. My friend, "G. G.", was just a mistaken individual that was swayed by the same visible and audible elements that 99% of us would have interpreted as one receiving the Holy Ghost. It's easy to say 'where was his discernment' but if it had been a stranger in most any of our local Churches intent on 'duping' us the incredibly vast majority would have rejoiced at what they perceived as someone getting the Holy Ghost.

I'd venture to say this isn't the first time any of us have seen the Devil speak in tongues!

To that end, there IS a magnanimous difference.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:24 AM
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Thank You for such an on point defense of OUR friend, GG!
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:43 AM
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Amen. Thank you for putting it that terms.
How many of us hit the ball out of the park every time? How many of us have never missed it at any time?
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:51 PM
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In all fairness, the 'G.G.' you speak of was not intentionally lying but responding to a man that, from all outward appearances, received the Holy Ghost just like many others that same night. Yes, he did talk in tongues... albeit one he created to sound like a spiritual manifestation.

He, 'Borat' himself, was the only 'liar' in that situation. My friend, "G. G.", was just a mistaken individual that was swayed by the same visible and audible elements that 99% of us would have interpreted as one receiving the Holy Ghost. It's easy to say 'where was his discernment' but if it had been a stranger in most any of our local Churches intent on 'duping' us the incredibly vast majority would have rejoiced at what they perceived as someone getting the Holy Ghost.

I'd venture to say this isn't the first time any of us have seen the Devil speak in tongues!

To that end, there IS a magnanimous difference.




MY MY MY

HOW QUICKLY

WE DEFEND OUR FRIENDS

BUT

LET'S EXPLORE

THE OTHER QUESTIONS RAISED

AS IF WE ARE OPEN MINDED AND HONEST HEARTED

OR
WILL WE BE TREATED ON THIS FORUM

AS IF IT IS ONLY FOR THE

"UPCI"


ENDORSED ?



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Old 02-23-2007, 01:08 PM
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In all fairness, G.G. did make us look like a bunch of baffoons (sp?). Yet, I don't believe he did it intentionally, and he can preach for me any day of the week.
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:57 PM
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MY MY MY

HOW QUICKLY

WE DEFEND OUR FRIENDS

BUT

LET'S EXPLORE

THE OTHER QUESTIONS RAISED

AS IF WE ARE OPEN MINDED AND HONEST HEARTED

OR
WILL WE BE TREATED ON THIS FORUM

AS IF IT IS ONLY FOR THE

"UPCI"


ENDORSED ?



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Bishop 1, I would suspect your welcome here 24/7 if you decide to be here that much. Everyone likes you, including myself. I just think it a little unfair to tag G. G. as having no discernment when ANY OF US would have probably surmised that he had received the Holy Ghost as well.

For the record, if it was being said about YOU I would come just as strongly to your defense. I think you know full well that the issue isn't really G. G. or UPC; the issue is a deceptive man intent on mocking a precious experience. This is one of those areas for which it is dangerous to say too quickly "Where was the discernment?"... any of us would have rejoiced at the supposed response (i/e tongues) they saw.

Again, I would have come just as quick to your defense... UPC or not.
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Old 02-24-2007, 12:53 PM
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Bishop 1, I would suspect your welcome here 24/7 if you decide to be here that much. Everyone likes you, including myself. I just think it a little unfair to tag G. G. as having no discernment when ANY OF US would have probably surmised that he had received the Holy Ghost as well.

For the record, if it was being said about YOU I would come just as strongly to your defense. I think you know full well that the issue isn't really G. G. or UPC; the issue is a deceptive man intent on mocking a precious experience. This is one of those areas for which it is dangerous to say too quickly "Where was the discernment?"... any of us would have rejoiced at the supposed response (i/e tongues) they saw.

Again, I would have come just as quick to your defense... UPC or not.
I don't blame G.G., what happened was an Apostolic cultural phenomenon. He did everything he was supposed to do. All the hoopala, all the emotion, it is designed to enthrall the crowd, to legitimize the message and the meeting. This would have been something entirely different had anyone decided to take Borat back stage to talk to him instead of giving him the mike.

It is the Apostolic culture to do anything and everything to work the crowd up into a froth in order to make sure the preacher was right on target for his sermon...

Borat: "Who can heal this pain that is in my heart???"
G.G. "...The one we preached about tonight."

Why not simply tell him "Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior!"


I agree with the Bishop on this one and most others in his list. Y'all should feel blessed, this is one of the only ongoing conversations I have seen him engaged in.

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Old 02-23-2007, 08:30 AM
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Wow, Bishop thought provoking questions!

What is the difference in those?

There is no difference.

If there ever is a seemingly difference, it's only because someone is trying to justify that there is a difference.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:15 AM
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I think it is far beneath you to try and relate this. It makes me wonder if you have some other "axe to grind", with GG.
If you can say that you have never been deceived by anyone, then you could say this with a clear conscience. If you have been, then you need to look in the mirror and read your statements.
As someone who has been at FCF since the opening, I am disappointed at your post.
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