Depression

Nicodemus1968 · #1 01-26-2020, 07:38 AM

I was able to take part of the last day of BOTT 2020. I enjoyed the messages I heard, and it looked like from point of view that it was a great conference. One thing I was really looking forward to viewing was the discussion panel, the conferences I’ve been to never had them. So, I was interested in seeing one in action in a church setting. The topic was being made whole, and they discussed that ministering to a church, to families can at times be overwhelming. Problems within Pastors homes are often hidden for the fact that “fellowships” might judge them. The participants all agreed that even though that they had faith to see God work in other people lives, it seemed that the problems they were going through were not being solved. It was a very good discussion, not being critical in any way. The reason for this thread is what the wife of the moderator for the discussion said. This Sister (I’m sorry I don’t remember her name) said that I believe for several years she battled depression, and she prayed, had elders pray for her! She said nothing was working, she was in a dark depression. She then went on to say that she went to a doctor to take medication, and I believe she talked with a therapist (that may have been the other gentleman). Anyway, not being critical, nor am I trying to embarrass this Sister. How does anyone here view depression? Do you believe we go to the doctors, take medication and problem solved? Is it spiritual? What say anyone of you...

Amanah · #2 01-26-2020, 08:20 AM

I believe that pharmaceuticals are a trap. I would rather see pastoral counseling and support along with the spiritual warfare of reading the psalms and focusing prayer time on praise, worshipping and thanksgivings. This battle is won through worshipping and praising God. Others should be enlisted for prayer, fasting and intercession.

Nicodemus1968 · #3 01-26-2020, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I believe that pharmaceuticals are a trap. I would rather see pastoral counseling and support along with the spiritual warfare of reading the psalms and focusing prayer time on praise, worshipping and thanksgivings. This battle is won through worshipping and praising God. Others should be enlisted for prayer, fasting and intercession.

When I heard the discussion panel talk about this, it put a thought wondering how many church goers actually deal with this. Now mind I wasn’t just interested in non-denominational, Lutheran, Baptist’s etc. I was interested in Pentecostal/Apostolic ranks. In my search I found an article from 1993, that stated in North Carolina Pentecostals ranked the highest that suffered from Depression! I was shocked, hence why I ask the question. What do you do with Depression?

Evang.Benincasa · #4 01-26-2020, 08:56 AM

Nothing a good prayer meeting won’t cure.

jediwill83 · #5 01-26-2020, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Nothing a good prayer meeting won’t cure.

Yeah...maybe Paul should have told Timothy to have himself a good ole prayer meeting for his frequent infirmities and stomach issues...

Come on man...

Evang.Benincasa · #6 01-26-2020, 03:47 PM

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Yeah...maybe Paul should have told Timothy to have himself a good ole prayer meeting for his frequent infirmities and stomach issues...

Come on man...

More than that, he told him to suck it up "2 Timothy 2:3"

But Paul also in the previous letter greeted Timothy with Christ as the one who gives strength 1 Timothy 1:12. He then makes sure in the second chapter to exhort Timothy to pray for all men including all who are in leadership positions. Therefore by the second letter to Timothy the prayer meeting is what brings Paul JOY. Paul then reminds Timothy, of the two prayer warriors of faith who raised Timothy, his moms and his meemaw. Paul reminds Timothy again to fan the flame that was given through his ordination that the Holy Ghost isn't a spirit of cowardice, but self control, power, and of mature love.

His stomach issue was one of digestion, due to a water issue. Therefore wine is the alternative for the local water issues on the gut.

Tithesmeister · #7 01-26-2020, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I believe that pharmaceuticals are a trap. I would rather see pastoral counseling and support along with the spiritual warfare of reading the psalms and focusing prayer time on praise, worshipping and thanksgivings. This battle is won through worshipping and praising God. Others should be enlisted for prayer, fasting and intercession.

And wine

Nicodemus1968 · #8 01-26-2020, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

I believe that pharmaceuticals are a trap. I would rather see pastoral counseling and support along with the spiritual warfare of reading the psalms and focusing prayer time on praise, worshipping and thanksgivings. This battle is won through worshipping and praising God. Others should be enlisted for prayer, fasting and intercession.

I hope there will be videos posted of the conference so you can see the entire panel at work. I understand what your saying, yet what do you tell this Pastor/Moderators wife that she already stated she has prayed, been prayed for, fasted and my trouble was not answered? I guess I wouldn’t of been shocked (if I can use that term) if this was a new soul to the faith, yet, this is a Pastors wife, who has been in truth for many years. In my opinion, why have a discussion like this unless there are many dealing with it, maybe in some parts more than others. Or maybe there doing damage control to help when the need arises?

Amanah · #9 01-27-2020, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I hope there will be videos posted of the conference so you can see the entire panel at work. I understand what your saying, yet what do you tell this Pastor/Moderators wife that she already stated she has prayed, been prayed for, fasted and my trouble was not answered? I guess I wouldn’t of been shocked (if I can use that term) if this was a new soul to the faith, yet, this is a Pastors wife, who has been in truth for many years. In my opinion, why have a discussion like this unless there are many dealing with it, maybe in some parts more than others. Or maybe there doing damage control to help when the need arises?

Pharmaceuticals are a temporary fix with side effects, and dealing with withdrawal when you realize that you need to get off something you are addicted to because you are suffering from memory lapses and other problems is going to be even more depressing.

You need to be transformed by the renewing of your mind through the word, praising and worshipping God.

Esaias · #10 01-26-2020, 01:33 PM

Depression means a lot of different things. Are we talking about melancholy? Sadness? Feeling down? Feeling unsatisfied? Or are we talking clinical emotional flatline, neither sad nor happy? Boredom? Suppression of appetite and interests?

Some depressions are caused by circumstances. Working a job you hate can be depressing, for example. Some are caused by dietary or general health issues. Some can be caused by too much social media. Some are spiritual attacks with no apparent "cause".

Each case is different, requires unique approaches.

One thing we seem to be prone to forget is that as Christians we are called to participate not only in Christ's glory and triumphs, but in His rejection, sorrows, and sufferings as well.

I think though that a lot of Pentecostal women are depressed because they have gotten caught up in a non Biblical but religious lifestyle that does not actually promote Biblical femininity and Biblical masculinity (for their husbands). This is just a symptom of the larger societal failures creeping into the church world. In my opinion, of course.